The final and clinching argument! Talk about logic!

Thanks, all, for tolerating my insecurities and reassuring my doubts.

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On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 11:30 AM Garth <[email protected]> wrote:

> On my Asus Pro Art 27" monitor that I can use to measure images with, I
> see 55.2 or 55.3cm at the intersection of the center TT and center ST. With
> the seat tube being 28.6, and the TT appearing the same, take half of that,
> 14.3mm, add to 55.2 or 55.3cm and you get 56.63 or 56.73 to the top of the
> tube, but the lug extends just a bit above that, so it's called a 57cm.
>
> Not that it's going to make any difference as it's literally splitting
> hairs !
>
> On Friday, September 26, 2025 at 12:20:24 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>>
>> Patrick Moore <[email protected]>
>> 10:18 AM (0 minutes ago)
>> to rbw-owners-bunch, bcc: me
>>
>> I’m looking at a 2010 Roadeo offered as a size 57. The owner was about my
>> height and has close to the same saddle height (74.5 versus my 75 cm from
>> center of bb to top of saddle just above seatpost).
>>
>> I think that this Rodeo is what Rivendell called a 57 cm model; can
>> anyone confirm that based on the following?
>>
>> Seller’s measurement of virtual (= level) tt is 57 cm (geometry chart
>> says 56.5); my size.
>>
>> My principal question bears on the seat tube length. Seller measures 57
>> cm from center of bb to top of extended seat lug, and 55 c-c; I daresay
>> it’s 56 c to top of top tube.
>>
>> Sellers Roadeo is only 1 cm shorter in the seat tube than my 1999 Joe
>> (size 57 c-t and 56 c-c) and, again, seller is/was just about my height
>> (tho long legs versus my long torso) and has a saddle at just ~5 mm lower
>> than mine.
>>
>> To me, this quacks like a 57. Right?
>>
>> My customs are respectively (57 cm model, 1999 Joe Starc) 56 cm c-c and
>> 57 cm to top of top tube; and (58 cm Matthews IGH road bike) 57 cm c-c and
>> 58 cm bb center to top of top tube. Both have virtual top tube lengths
>> (actual tts are slightly sloping) of 56.5 or 57 top tubes c-c.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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