Hi Michael,

That is certainly a beautiful Sam! Interesting to read your dilemma as I am 
having frame swap thoughts about my own Bronzey Green Hillborne. I'm having 
the opposite problem to you in that I find the ride to be too harsh for the 
terrible condition of the roads and cycle lanes I commute on here in South 
Wales. I personally think it's a faster bike than I need (also set up with 
a high albatross but with inner bar ends on the front of the curve for an 
extra aero position). This is with 44 mm tyres which is nearly the max with 
fenders so I'm potentially in the market for something dedicated to 
commuting with bigger tyre clearances like a Platypus or a Clem. I have an 
Appaloosa set up as a trail bike at the moment which would potentially be 
well suited to commuting duty.

I personally didn't get on with drops on my Sam. In order to put the reach 
close enough to be not too stretched out I had to use a short stem and it 
was far too twitchy with 42 cm bars

Hopefully some food for thought.

Ant



On Friday, 7 November 2025 at 14:44:33 UTC Michael wrote:

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