Thanks Ant! I really do love this bike regardless of my n+1 desires. How 
would you say the Sam feels compared to your Appaloosa? I've never ridden a 
Platypus but I've heard it's similar to the Sam, but certainly can fit 
larger tires. It may be a good choice for your case. Also, do you happen to 
have any pictures of the bar ends you are running? 

On Friday, November 7, 2025 at 11:18:18 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:

> Hi Michael,
>
> That is certainly a beautiful Sam! Interesting to read your dilemma as I 
> am having frame swap thoughts about my own Bronzey Green Hillborne. I'm 
> having the opposite problem to you in that I find the ride to be too harsh 
> for the terrible condition of the roads and cycle lanes I commute on here 
> in South Wales. I personally think it's a faster bike than I need (also set 
> up with a high albatross but with inner bar ends on the front of the curve 
> for an extra aero position). This is with 44 mm tyres which is nearly the 
> max with fenders so I'm potentially in the market for something dedicated 
> to commuting with bigger tyre clearances like a Platypus or a Clem. I have 
> an Appaloosa set up as a trail bike at the moment which would potentially 
> be well suited to commuting duty.
>
> I personally didn't get on with drops on my Sam. In order to put the reach 
> close enough to be not too stretched out I had to use a short stem and it 
> was far too twitchy with 42 cm bars
>
> Hopefully some food for thought.
>
> Ant
>
>
>
> On Friday, 7 November 2025 at 14:44:33 UTC Michael wrote:
>
>> [image: Screenshot 2025-11-07 094233.png]
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>

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