Ditto  on that

Heck Campy triple front works also if you are friction shifting.


Yours sincerely,





________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on 
behalf of Shannon Menkveld <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2026 1:29 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Maximum drop between large/outer and small/inner cog 
that shifts well consistently (in friction)

If you're going friction, why not just use any Deore-or-better Shimano 6-9 
speed MTB derailleur that you like the looks of? Nothing better was ever made 
by anyone, and not many were as good.

--Shannon

On Saturday, February 14, 2026 at 10:55:45 AM UTC-8 [email protected] wrote:
Thanks, Steve. I’m using an Ultegra 11 sp 50/34 double and wondered if I could 
go as low as 32 for the inner ring.

Perhaps what I’ll do is switch to a 48/32.

If I go friction, I’ll center the outer ring on the cassette.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 7:49 AM Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
--- Just adding that I think offsetting the chain line a bit to favor the big 
ring is a smart approach.

On Monday, February 9, 2026 at 9:44:43 AM UTC-5 Steve wrote:
Patrick, I've run a 50-44-24 triple (non-ramped rings) with a 1990 Deore LX 3x 
FD without any issues, though it did prefer a crisp upshift. The original small 
chainring was a 28t, so I may - or may not - have been exceeding Shimano's spec 
for the FD.

I don't recall if you're using 'brifters' on your Roadeo, so I should mention 
that the bike was setup with friction shifting.

Steve in AVL

On Saturday, February 7, 2026 at 8:24:10 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
I’m mentally toying with rebuilding my lovely Roadeo with silver and friction 
parts  instead of the industrial-looking (but seamlessly working) Ultegra 8000 
11-sp group.

This group includes a 50/34 double. I think of switching it to a 50 + something 
smaller than 34. Do any of you have a 20-tooth gap between big and small rings? 
What front derailleur? How does it work?

I’d center the big ring so that the drivetrain is a 1X + occasional use granny. 
I’d use the 50 with all 11 cogs, cruising gears would be the middle 5 cogs in 
the big ring, and I’d use the granny only for very steep hills.

Would this work? Things to be wary of?

Thanks.

BIG RING CENTERED
27.3" wheel

50
30
14
98

15
91

16
85
51
17
80
48
18
76
46
19
72
43
20
68
41
21
65
39
23
59
36
27
51
30
32
43
26

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