Thanks Ryan and Jim!

Obviously a NOS frame built up with such nice parts is not a good data 
point for selling a used frame/build. BUT, having bought and sold used Riv 
frames I generally agree with Bill on those that are well used but in good 
enough shape. The only big caveat are the rare frames that were limited 
runs or discontinued because value is in the eye of the beholder a bit 
more. 

Having “deep dived” this thread and all related stuff on these bikes I was 
happy to find both these Blue Lug posts on the Hunq:

General post <https://bluelug.com/contents/rivendell/hunqapillar.php>

Break away Hunq Frame <https://bluelug.com/bike-catalog/12801/>

Some Nice photos and builds here with great Photos. 
On Monday, April 6, 2026 at 9:18:20 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:

> Another data point, and a reminder, that the cost of new Hunqapillar 
> framesets gradually increased until it reached $2,200 to $2,300. Some of us 
> paid that much, and have the receipts. I noticed that the NOS Hunq frame 
> that Drew nabbed — congratulations Drew! — was a $2,400 line item on Riv’s 
> complete build list for the bike. 
>
> That price sounds just right to me for what you get, especially in the 
> larger sizes with the extra down tube, lugs, and labor. It’s just a very, 
> very special bike. There’s still super high demand for Hunqs on the used 
> market and resale value is robust. 
>
> I agree with what Laing said: “It can be built into almost anything and 
> everything - it is the one frame to rule them all.” I think this applies 
> equally to Hunqapillars and Bombadils. 
>
> Jim
>
> On Monday, April 6, 2026 at 7:29:02 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> At the end of Bombadil production, they were $3000 frames (the tentacled 
>> versions anyway). I got mine as a cancelled/declined order for 40% off as a 
>> web special, for $1800. It was my second Rivendell and far from the last. 
>> It is currently being fitted with an OM-1 rear derailleur. 
>>
>> Personally, I think you would be unwise to sell as you could likely never 
>> replace it and what you could sell it for will not get you anything close 
>> to what you have. It can be built into almost anything and everything - it 
>> is the one frame to rule them all. The only reason to sell in my mind is if 
>> you had to get a step-through frame and you have no other money.
>>  
>> Also, one of the last Tolkien named frames. 
>>
>> Laing Conley 
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2026 at 5:52 PM Isaak Oliansky <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> My data point. I paid $2200 + s&h for my complete raw/clear-coated 
>>> Bombadil with so-so parts. After parting it out I was probably all in at 
>>> $2,000. I was delighted at that price, and one of 60+ people who messaged 
>>> the seller the day it was listed on the Rivendell facebook group (which 
>>> I've now left...what else would I need?!). 
>>> On Monday, April 6, 2026 at 2:03:18 PM UTC-7 WilletM wrote:
>>>
>>>> To Captain Conway re: Hunq pricing--
>>>>
>>>> For comparison, I bought a Bombadil frameset here off RBW in 2020 for 
>>>> $1200 shipped.  Very nice condition with quite a few paint touch-ups, but 
>>>> frame/fork were in excellent shape with reasonably low miles.  I was very 
>>>> happy to get it as a frame/fork and at that price because I had a 
>>>> particular build in mind.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that helps.
>>>>
>>>> Willet M.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, April 6, 2026 at 10:21:33 AM UTC-5 [email protected] 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tangentially related, I've been contemplating selling my Hunqapillar 
>>>>> and downsizing in general to the extent that I picked up a new-to-me Clem 
>>>>> Smith Jr. H Saturday that may be a better fit physically and in life 
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what do folks value hunqs at?  Mine is the final iteration with 
>>>>> 650b wheels and has  regular beuasage of a daily driver but no dents or 
>>>>> damage.
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't an invitation to bombard me with requests.  I'm just 
>>>>> thinking about getting ready to make a plan as I'm a little emotionally 
>>>>> attached to the bike.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fair winds,
>>>>>
>>>>> Captain Conway Bennett
>>>>> 239.877.4119 <(239)%20877-4119>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2026, 10:08 AM R Shannon <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Drew,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Congratulations on acquiring a Riv classic! Nice color too. This 
>>>>>> might be "the one” for you. My first Rivendell was an Atlantis painted 
>>>>>> Hunqapillar Gray. I would have gone for the Hunq but the top tube was 
>>>>>> longer than I wanted so the Atlantis was a better fit. I hope have the 
>>>>>> chance to see your Hunq.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2026, at 10:16 AM, Drew Fitchette <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <IMG_0601.jpeg>In what feels like almost the most ironically poetic 
>>>>>> thing that could’ve happened, Riv posted what might be the last of the 
>>>>>> new 
>>>>>> (now extinct) Hunqapillars last week on their web specials 
>>>>>> <https://www.rivbike.com/products/54cm-hunqapillar-web-special>
>>>>>>  page. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I(like many) have pined for one of these bikes since going down the 
>>>>>> Rivendell rabbit hole, and have gone through more than my share of 
>>>>>> frames 
>>>>>> trying to find “the one”, if that’s even a thing…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’d recently posted here that I was after a 54 Hunq or 56 Bombadil, 
>>>>>> and that my 58 Saluki and 56 Atlantis would be up for trade if someone 
>>>>>> wanted. I received interest in both bikes if I was willing to sell them, 
>>>>>> and the Saluki went to someone who’d been dreaming of one for years, 
>>>>>> while 
>>>>>> the Atlantis is still here… for now. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then… the universe said here’s a bike built essentially how you’d 
>>>>>> want, and the money goes to a good cause… 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I bought it, and will inevitably post a ton of photos of it when 
>>>>>> it’s here and  in use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Drew in ATL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, February 6, 2025 at 2:44:29 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In case you missed this, here are a couple of beautiful Hunqa's from 
>>>>>>> the Radavist: A Visit To The Nutmeg Country Cycling Museum Part 2: Troy 
>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>> Jen’s Stable of Bikes. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://theradavist.com/nutmeg-country-cycling-museum-bikes/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAab50lXXmeCXyX7uVSDDM4GaaSsBs8jOZAu0YbsTes_ADxa7hxsRsbddU3I_aem_fHbZEdOdx98jl1LNhKndiA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: 2024_Nutmeg_Country_Museum_Bikes-74.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [image: 2024_Nutmeg_Country_Museum_Bikes-104.jpg]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:09:40 PM UTC-4 Bill Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [image: D82489DA-D437-4E5E-8DB9-192D50D1B61D_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>>>>>>> This is from last year, touring the Oregon and NorCal coast on my 
>>>>>>>> 62cm Waterford Hunqa, which I believe I got in 2010 or 2011 as an 
>>>>>>>> "early 
>>>>>>>> adopter"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll never sell this bike, ever! It always puts a smile on my face 
>>>>>>>> when I ride it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -br
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, December 11, 2022 at 7:16:08 AM UTC-8 [email protected] 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It seems the Bombadil and Hunqapillar frames are beloved. They're 
>>>>>>>>> stout, beautiful, and sometimes have intricate additional tubes and 
>>>>>>>>> lugs. 
>>>>>>>>> While I've done a lot of reading about Rivendell I was a bit unclear 
>>>>>>>>> on the 
>>>>>>>>> origins and intended uses of these frames. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wanted to start a thread where we could share and dump info 
>>>>>>>>> about these bikes along with pictures of builds. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joe and Jim were helpful in laying out a bit of background in another 
>>>>>>>>> thread 
>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/mkxv02ciCM4/m/KqWZOIMQAwAJ>,
>>>>>>>>>  there's 
>>>>>>>>> some great info there. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The original Hunqapillar catalog is up here: 
>>>>>>>>> http://notfine.com/rivendell/Brochures/Rivendell%20Frames%20Hunqapillar.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The first mention I can find of the Bombadil is in RR 41, sometime 
>>>>>>>>> in 2009. Excerpted pages attached. As a few members might recall I am 
>>>>>>>>> very 
>>>>>>>>> into raw frames with brass spilling out of the lugs! I know that many 
>>>>>>>>> Bombadil owners have had their frames repainted like Jason Fuller, 
>>>>>>>>> whose 
>>>>>>>>> absolute stunner shows up here from time to time. By the way, the 
>>>>>>>>> picture 
>>>>>>>>> below is one of my very favorite Rivendell images. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Jason Bombadil green.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's also the butter-banana Bombadil that recently sold on 
>>>>>>>>> eBay. I believe that one was purchased by John Watson of the Radavist 
>>>>>>>>> (and 
>>>>>>>>> he's got a Hunq) so we might see some nice pics of that bike sometime 
>>>>>>>>> soon. 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: s-l1600-2.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And speaking of, here's John's Hunqapillar, more images and 
>>>>>>>>> write-up here 
>>>>>>>>> <https://theradavist.com/rivendell-hunqapillar-review/>.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [image: Johns-Rivendell-Hunqapillar-29er-Klunker-76.jpg] 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are both of these frame names borrowing from Tolkien? I understand 
>>>>>>>>> RBW had to stop using Tolkien names. 
>>>>>>>>>
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