If you do decide to switch, I'd try TRP levers before starting a dissection. I'm quite a fan.
Both my kids have Shimano 11 speed road on one bike each. It should shift pretty impeccably once dialed. I found the front to be difficult to get right initially for sure. The hand feel is said to be similar to TRP levers too. The gear pull ratio was the same on all Shimano rear derailleur up until 9 speed mountain and 10 speed road. (After that, Shuimano mountain and road pull ratios diverge). Unless I am using a cassette that has a 40+ tooth big cog, I just use an older derailleur with old Suntour bar cons and I've been happy 7-11 speeds. If I'm going over 28 in back, I tend to use 9 speed XT or XTR rear derailleurs since they work so well, with the last of the nice speeds handling up to 36. The only reason to run a more recent derailleur friction is for a bigger cassette, likely run one by. I ran a 11 speed XT rearderailleur and 11 speed cassette with a Suntour barcon and a Wolftooth tanpan and it worked well. I was worried about cable life, but had no immediate issues. I am now running a 11 speed GRX rear derailleur with a Ene Ciclo 11-12 bar end shifter and it feels really good. I've only down about 400 miles so far, but it's been super hilly. I can say the feel is excellent. I can't speak to durability yet vs Suntour barcons. Give me a few years. This would be the buy once solution via Soma or Blue Lug. If you are running friction, any of the Microshifter bar cons with a friction option and is 10 speed mountain or later will work in friction mode. I have a friend who has run this set up happiless for thousands of hard, dirty miles, but I haven't. Good luck, Z also in ABQ On Friday, April 10, 2026 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: > Nope, and yes indeed, and yes, and yes, dammit! And, understood! > > Patrick “what’s life without something to fret about?” Moore > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 11:50 AM Ryan Fleming <[email protected]> wrote: > >> But could you do those 50+ mile outings you enjoy with the riding group >> you've hooked up with on a fixed gear would be my question. >> >> I think you got a really nice ride at a decent price on the second-hand >> market that adds more than it subtracts from your riding experience and I >> would just fine-tune the indexed shifting and ride the damned thing as you >> said. I'm not saying this in a mean-spirited way....just so we're clear. >> >> On Friday, April 10, 2026 at 11:22:53 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: >> >>> Well, a lot of this could have been avoided if one had done his >>> homework. I apologize for the bandwidth. It seems that Microshift’s 11 >>> speed shifters are indexed only (contrary to what I read or thought I’d >>> read), and between the hassle of trying other friction-only BES and finding >>> new levers that mimic the length of the Ultegra brifters, it makes more >>> sense just to fine-tune the brifter indexing a bit more (messed up by the >>> LBS) and just ride the damned thing. >>> >>> Maybe I’ll turn the Roadeo into a fixed gear. >>> >>> Thanks, all. Over and out. >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2026 at 4:26 PM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> As I said earlier, I’m looking for aero brake levers with long hoods >>>> that more or less mimic the Ultegra R8000 brifters on my Roadeo. >>>> >>>> I’m looking for levers with hoods ~2 cm longer than the standard >>>> Shimano BL R400 aero levers. >>>> >>>> Someone recommended the TRPs and pictures show a brifter-like hood. >>>> >>>> 1. Can someone give me the distance from tip of hood to rear of rubber? >>>> >>>> 2. Can anyone tell me if these are made entirely from aluminum, or if >>>> the bodies proper are plastic? >>>> >>>> 3. If plastic, can anyone say how durable they are? >>>> >>>> 4. Can anyone tell me the difference between the RRL Alloy and the >>>> RRL-SR Road levers? >>>> >>>> https://trpcycling.com/products/rrl-al >>>> >>>> https://trpcycling.com/products/rrl-sr >>>> >>>> https://trpcycling.com/collections/trp-brake-levers >>>> >>>> Does anyone have a pair of either in BLACK to sell? >>>> >>>> Lastly, does anyone have a pair of 11-speed Microshift bar end shifters >>>> in BLACK to sell? >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Patrick Moore >>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >>>> services >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>>> >>>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>>> >>>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >>> services >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>> >>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>> >>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0c269fdc-8ccd-4867-ad4c-0007a9370da9n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0c269fdc-8ccd-4867-ad4c-0007a9370da9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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