Tldr--i just learned that, but I assure the microshift bar ends shifts friction. Jus buy the 12 speed version though, but know that there are a Shimano and sram version.
On Saturday, April 11, 2026 at 3:23:42 PM UTC-5 Conway Bennett wrote: > Patrick, > > I have brand new without packaging all black TRP levers from God knows > abandoned project. May me a fair offer shipped from Chicagoland. > > > > On Friday, April 10, 2026 at 3:32:39 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > >> If you do decide to switch, I'd try TRP levers before starting a >> dissection. I'm quite a fan. >> >> Both my kids have Shimano 11 speed road on one bike each. It should shift >> pretty impeccably once dialed. I found the front to be difficult to get >> right initially for sure. The hand feel is said to be similar to TRP levers >> too. >> >> The gear pull ratio was the same on all Shimano rear derailleur up until >> 9 speed mountain and 10 speed road. (After that, Shuimano mountain and road >> pull ratios diverge). Unless I am using a cassette that has a 40+ tooth big >> cog, I just use an older derailleur with old Suntour bar cons and I've been >> happy 7-11 speeds. If I'm going over 28 in back, I tend to use 9 speed XT >> or XTR rear derailleurs since they work so well, with the last of the nice >> speeds handling up to 36. >> >> The only reason to run a more recent derailleur friction is for a bigger >> cassette, likely run one by. I ran a 11 speed XT rearderailleur and 11 >> speed cassette with a Suntour barcon and a Wolftooth tanpan and it worked >> well. I was worried about cable life, but had no immediate issues. I am now >> running a 11 speed GRX rear derailleur with a Ene Ciclo 11-12 bar end >> shifter and it feels really good. I've only down about 400 miles so far, >> but it's been super hilly. I can say the feel is excellent. I can't speak >> to durability yet vs Suntour barcons. Give me a few years. This would be >> the buy once solution via Soma or Blue Lug. >> >> If you are running friction, any of the Microshifter bar cons with a >> friction option and is 10 speed mountain or later will work in friction >> mode. I have a friend who has run this set up happiless for thousands of >> hard, dirty miles, but I haven't. >> >> Good luck, Z also in ABQ >> >> On Friday, April 10, 2026 at 1:05:09 PM UTC-6 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> Nope, and yes indeed, and yes, and yes, dammit! And, understood! >>> >>> Patrick “what’s life without something to fret about?” Moore >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 11:50 AM Ryan Fleming <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> But could you do those 50+ mile outings you enjoy with the riding group >>>> you've hooked up with on a fixed gear would be my question. >>>> >>>> I think you got a really nice ride at a decent price on the second-hand >>>> market that adds more than it subtracts from your riding experience and I >>>> would just fine-tune the indexed shifting and ride the damned thing as you >>>> said. I'm not saying this in a mean-spirited way....just so we're clear. >>>> >>>> On Friday, April 10, 2026 at 11:22:53 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well, a lot of this could have been avoided if one had done his >>>>> homework. I apologize for the bandwidth. It seems that Microshift’s 11 >>>>> speed shifters are indexed only (contrary to what I read or thought I’d >>>>> read), and between the hassle of trying other friction-only BES and >>>>> finding >>>>> new levers that mimic the length of the Ultegra brifters, it makes more >>>>> sense just to fine-tune the brifter indexing a bit more (messed up by the >>>>> LBS) and just ride the damned thing. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe I’ll turn the Roadeo into a fixed gear. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, all. Over and out. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 8, 2026 at 4:26 PM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As I said earlier, I’m looking for aero brake levers with long hoods >>>>>> that more or less mimic the Ultegra R8000 brifters on my Roadeo. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m looking for levers with hoods ~2 cm longer than the standard >>>>>> Shimano BL R400 aero levers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Someone recommended the TRPs and pictures show a brifter-like hood. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Can someone give me the distance from tip of hood to rear of >>>>>> rubber? >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Can anyone tell me if these are made entirely from aluminum, or if >>>>>> the bodies proper are plastic? >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. If plastic, can anyone say how durable they are? >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. Can anyone tell me the difference between the RRL Alloy and the >>>>>> RRL-SR Road levers? >>>>>> >>>>>> https://trpcycling.com/products/rrl-al >>>>>> >>>>>> https://trpcycling.com/products/rrl-sr >>>>>> >>>>>> https://trpcycling.com/collections/trp-brake-levers >>>>>> >>>>>> Does anyone have a pair of either in BLACK to sell? >>>>>> >>>>>> Lastly, does anyone have a pair of 11-speed Microshift bar end >>>>>> shifters in BLACK to sell? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other >>>>>> writing services >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>>>>> >>>>>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>>>>> >>>>>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other >>>>> writing services >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>>>> >>>>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>>>> >>>>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> >>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0c269fdc-8ccd-4867-ad4c-0007a9370da9n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/0c269fdc-8ccd-4867-ad4c-0007a9370da9n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Patrick Moore >>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >>> services >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>> >>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>> >>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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