Thanks for the help.

On Sunday, May 3, 2026 at 5:30:22 PM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Using the Riv geometry chart you can use an existing bike you own to get a 
> good idea how much front-center distance you would need with a given 
> tire/fender combo for a particular frame. Top tube length alone doesn't 
> mean anything by itself, as the front-center distance takes into account BB 
> height, fork rake and head tube angle. Front-center distance if you aren't 
> familiar is the distance from the center BB to the center front dropout. 
> Use a good tape measure. This distance plus your foot position(and shoes 
> you wear) on a given crank arm and pedal will tell you how much room you'll 
> have for your toes. 
>
> On Sunday, May 3, 2026 at 7:25:20 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> 2022 59cm Atlantis, never any toe-verlap.
>>
>> Nick in Falls Church VA 
>>
>> On Sunday, May 3, 2026 at 7:24:00 PM UTC-4 Brian Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I have a bit of overlap on my 54cm 2025 Sam. I doubt I’ll run fenders on 
>>> it as a result. But I’ve always had it on any 700c bike I’ve ever owned.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> Lexington KY
>>>
>>> On May 3, 2026, at 7:10 PM, 'Dave White' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me if they have toe overlap on their Sam Hillborne or 
>>> Appaloosa? I would think it would be less likely on the Appaloosa with the 
>>> longer top tube and extra 2 degrees on the head tube. I would almost 
>>> certainly be using fenders.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dave
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