So a Platypus is neither a mixte nor a step through.  What the heck is it? 
 Is it just a nice bike?  I guess it's just a nice bike.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Sunday, May 17, 2026 at 6:07:05 AM UTC-7 Steven Seelig wrote:

> On the whole step-through/mixte debate.  I agree with those that ascribe 
> mixte status only to bike with a double top tube rather than a straight 
> one.  I also disagree with Rivendel that a platy or this new bike are 
> step-throughs, mostly because of how Rivendell suggests to buy their 
> frames.  I have a 60cm Platy and I am 5' 9" and love the bike with Billy 
> bars.  It is absolutely the right size for me.  But it ain't a step-through 
> in any way, shape or form for me like a Clem.  My definition, can I lift my 
> hiking boots over the top tube to mount without scuffing the top tube, and 
> because the top tub is higher with the 60cm, there is just no way to do 
> that.  Ditto with the, "i'm cool and am stepping my right leg through the 
> top tube for my dramatic dismount so that I am immediately ready for 
> action."  Maybe that works if I am wearing sandals, but definitely not 
> wearing anything with a thick legged sole.
>
> I definitely have a cargo e-bike that is step through where I do dismounts 
> dramticus, but not my Platy.  Maybe if the frame were smaller or maybe if I 
> wasn't of retirement age.  Am I an outlier?
>
> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 11:24:26 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> Thanks all. Sounds like a good option to add to the mix. Gives buyers 
>> more ways to optimize, or just to dither. The completes are generally such 
>> a good deal. 
>>
>> Tracy - I hear you re lugs. i love them too. Once bike is decked out with 
>> accessories, I stop seeing the joins. 
>>
>> Yellow looks fun and fresh.
>>
>> Bill, I’d like to be reminded of your RB mountain mixte, perhaps in a new 
>> thread. I had a bubbe with liftatube and it was set up beautifully but I 
>> never fully loved it. I am not sure why.
>>
>> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 2:42:15 PM UTC-6 Drew Fitchette wrote:
>>
>>> Agree with Bill. I'd also add that because the bike is more affordable 
>>> for us, I assume it's more affordable for Riv to order. Between it and the 
>>> Clem it probably helps them serve more customers too. 
>>>
>>> I'm excited to see all the photos and info when this presale comes up, 
>>> though I've got my heart set on a Clem from the next run.
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 4:33:12 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think the distinction is mainly that when they have them to sell, it 
>>>> will be distinctive in that it's the one they have to sell.  
>>>>
>>>> The ideal for me would be to turn back the clock and not sell my Rosco 
>>>> Bubbe mountain step through, code named Trusty MUSTy, and mistakenly 
>>>> referred to as the Medium Mountain Mixte.  Medium Mountain Mixte caused 
>>>> extreme objections from those who correctly pointed out that the MMM was a 
>>>> step through but not a mixte at all.  
>>>>
>>>> I definitely want a true step through in my size, someday.  
>>>>
>>>> Bill Lindsay
>>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 11:27:53 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 10:59:35 AM UTC-6 thalasin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's a more road-oriented Clem. Less stout. Also less stout 
>>>>> than the Platypus. It's (allegedly) only going to be offered as a 
>>>>> complete 
>>>>> to keep the cost down.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's described on the website as a Country Bike. 
>>>>>
>>>>> *Homer, Sam, Platypus, YelloWolleY (YWY)*  Ride tires 33mm to 50mm. 
>>>>> Basically, all-around useful fat-tire road and “light trail” bikes Homer 
>>>>> and YelloWolley are 75 percent road, 25 percent trail Sam and Platypus,  
>>>>> 50-50. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess that might partly explain why the Charlie Gallop lost the 
>>>>> lower, curved top tube for the final design.  Otherwise, this bike and it 
>>>>> might have been even more similar, with lugged vs un-lugged being the 
>>>>> primary difference?   Maybe a little lighter tubing.  
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't dislike the Yellowolley at all, but I too have been strugling 
>>>>> to figure out what the distinction is, in terms of how it fits into the 
>>>>> lineup.
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>

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