Clems are gems! I'm actually spoiled by mine, it keeps doing everything I need a bike to do perfectly 🙌
On Sunday, May 17, 2026 at 3:12:36 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: > @Joe, > > I understand. > > I wanted to follow up along with your appreciation of your Clem. > > Kim Hetzel. > > > On Sun, May 17, 2026, 2:51 PM Joe Bernard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Kim, >> >> My response was to Bill about Platys and Yellowolleys and such, which >> Will does indeed call step-overs. >> >> On Sunday, May 17, 2026 at 2:39:06 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: >> >>> @Joe, >>> >>> I thank you for mentioning about Will calling the Clems "step-overs". I >>> wasn’t aware of this. For me, the Clem is a step-through bicycle. The >>> Platypus is considered a step-over bicycle in my opinion. I had thought >>> about buying one multiple times over and over again. However, I decided not >>> to. >>> >>> I came here to chime in and wave a big flag of favor and delight for my >>> Clem as my favorite as a step-through Rivendell bicycle as a senior cyclist >>> with aging bones and joints along with Joe. >>> >>> Kim Hetzel waiting to see if the Clem comes out in the color periwinkle. >>> >>> On Sun, May 17, 2026, 7:41 AM Joe Bernard <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Bill Lindsay said: "So a Platypus is neither a mixte nor a step >>>> through. What the heck is it? Is it just a nice bike? I guess it's just a >>>> nice bike." >>>> >>>> Will calls them step-overs. Which I suppose you younger folks can >>>> actually do but my inflexible old joints won't let me step over the >>>> toptube >>>> on these frames. My glorious and wonderful Clem L is a true step-through >>>> and super easy to get my leg through and mount. To quote the great Leah >>>> Peterson, Clem's are gems! >>>> >>>> Joe Bernard >>>> Stepping through in Clearlake CA >>>> >>>> On Sunday, May 17, 2026 at 7:16:07 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>> >>>>> So a Platypus is neither a mixte nor a step through. What the heck is >>>>> it? Is it just a nice bike? I guess it's just a nice bike. >>>>> >>>>> Bill Lindsay >>>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>>> On Sunday, May 17, 2026 at 6:07:05 AM UTC-7 Steven Seelig wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On the whole step-through/mixte debate. I agree with those that >>>>>> ascribe mixte status only to bike with a double top tube rather than a >>>>>> straight one. I also disagree with Rivendel that a platy or this new >>>>>> bike >>>>>> are step-throughs, mostly because of how Rivendell suggests to buy their >>>>>> frames. I have a 60cm Platy and I am 5' 9" and love the bike with Billy >>>>>> bars. It is absolutely the right size for me. But it ain't a >>>>>> step-through >>>>>> in any way, shape or form for me like a Clem. My definition, can I lift >>>>>> my >>>>>> hiking boots over the top tube to mount without scuffing the top tube, >>>>>> and >>>>>> because the top tub is higher with the 60cm, there is just no way to do >>>>>> that. Ditto with the, "i'm cool and am stepping my right leg through >>>>>> the >>>>>> top tube for my dramatic dismount so that I am immediately ready for >>>>>> action." Maybe that works if I am wearing sandals, but definitely not >>>>>> wearing anything with a thick legged sole. >>>>>> >>>>>> I definitely have a cargo e-bike that is step through where I do >>>>>> dismounts dramticus, but not my Platy. Maybe if the frame were smaller >>>>>> or >>>>>> maybe if I wasn't of retirement age. Am I an outlier? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 11:24:26 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks all. Sounds like a good option to add to the mix. Gives >>>>>>> buyers more ways to optimize, or just to dither. The completes are >>>>>>> generally such a good deal. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tracy - I hear you re lugs. i love them too. Once bike is decked out >>>>>>> with accessories, I stop seeing the joins. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yellow looks fun and fresh. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bill, I’d like to be reminded of your RB mountain mixte, perhaps in >>>>>>> a new thread. I had a bubbe with liftatube and it was set up >>>>>>> beautifully >>>>>>> but I never fully loved it. I am not sure why. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 2:42:15 PM UTC-6 Drew Fitchette wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Agree with Bill. I'd also add that because the bike is more >>>>>>>> affordable for us, I assume it's more affordable for Riv to order. >>>>>>>> Between >>>>>>>> it and the Clem it probably helps them serve more customers too. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm excited to see all the photos and info when this presale comes >>>>>>>> up, though I've got my heart set on a Clem from the next run. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 4:33:12 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think the distinction is mainly that when they have them to >>>>>>>>> sell, it will be distinctive in that it's the one they have to sell. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The ideal for me would be to turn back the clock and not sell my >>>>>>>>> Rosco Bubbe mountain step through, code named Trusty MUSTy, and >>>>>>>>> mistakenly >>>>>>>>> referred to as the Medium Mountain Mixte. Medium Mountain Mixte >>>>>>>>> caused >>>>>>>>> extreme objections from those who correctly pointed out that the MMM >>>>>>>>> was a >>>>>>>>> step through but not a mixte at all. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I definitely want a true step through in my size, someday. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bill Lindsay >>>>>>>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 11:27:53 AM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, May 15, 2026 at 10:59:35 AM UTC-6 thalasin wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think it's a more road-oriented Clem. Less stout. Also less >>>>>>>>>> stout than the Platypus. It's (allegedly) only going to be offered >>>>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>>>> complete to keep the cost down. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's described on the website as a Country Bike. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *Homer, Sam, Platypus, YelloWolleY (YWY)* Ride tires 33mm to >>>>>>>>>> 50mm. Basically, all-around useful fat-tire road and “light trail” >>>>>>>>>> bikes >>>>>>>>>> Homer and YelloWolley are 75 percent road, 25 percent trail Sam and >>>>>>>>>> Platypus, 50-50. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I guess that might partly explain why the Charlie Gallop lost the >>>>>>>>>> lower, curved top tube for the final design. Otherwise, this bike >>>>>>>>>> and it >>>>>>>>>> might have been even more similar, with lugged vs un-lugged being >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> primary difference? Maybe a little lighter tubing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't dislike the Yellowolley at all, but I too have been >>>>>>>>>> strugling to figure out what the distinction is, in terms of how it >>>>>>>>>> fits >>>>>>>>>> into the lineup. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >>> >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a994131e-4e85-49bd-bb42-c8042bd706efn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/a994131e-4e85-49bd-bb42-c8042bd706efn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d17c361d-6bb8-4db2-b393-6035e424bb0fn%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/d17c361d-6bb8-4db2-b393-6035e424bb0fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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