I messaged the seller about the sizing on the Legolas a while back and gave up after having substantial difficulty understanding what the heck was going on.
On Monday, May 18, 2026 at 5:13:27 PM UTC-7 Dave Johnston wrote: > About the horror, I looked again and I don't think I'd keep much of > anything on that Legolas except frame, fork and brakes. Making it not such > a good value. I also got around and looked at the Blue Ram and the sizing > is clearly off. It looks more like a 60cm to me. It is certainly bigger > than my 56cm Ram. > > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 1:31 PM Brian Forsee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> For me the horror is mostly the wheelset. Probably plenty functional but >> not very attractive imo. Certainly not doing the frame justice in the >> aesthetics department >> >> On Monday, May 18, 2026 at 12:27:47 PM UTC-5 Dave Johnston wrote: >> >>> If the "horror" is the long stack of spacers, at least the new owner has >>> plenty to work with and can cut them down. That's preferable then trying to >>> add stack to a short cut steerer. >>> >>> The sizing measurements didn't really make sense on the Legolas, but >>> they did say it was "custom". A 17cm headtube doesn't jive with a 52.5 Seat >>> tube unless the top tube slopes about 6deg (It looks horizontal) and the >>> wheels are 650b or maybe its less slope and 26" wheels. Maybe seat tube is >>> Center to center? I would double check how the measurements were made and >>> ask what size the tires are. >>> >>> -Dave J >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 12:51 PM Brian Forsee <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> A couple of Riv's on the radbazaar. No relation. 54 Legolas and 58 Ram >>>> i think. Someone save that Legolas! The horror! >>>> >>>> https://theradavist.com/bazaar/item/vqkl9fkIIZE7gSpN1bEE >>>> >>>> https://theradavist.com/bazaar/item/9HLFWYQBLPGC1Lpu3uci >>>> >>>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 2:35:05 PM UTC-5 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Definitely looks like his Victor... has the "Best Bike" sticker on it >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> Sweet deal for a big well maintained susie! >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 3:18:34 PM UTC-4 Victor Meng wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Does this look like Will's Susie? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-59cm-rivendell-susie/7934083904.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 10:39:43 AM UTC-7 maxcr wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No affiliation with seller, but someone here might be interested: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rivendell sport tourer ( long and low ) >>>>>>> $3,500 >>>>>>> Listed in Grand Rapids, MI >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 53cm Rivendell lugged cycle cross touring bicycle. 700 wheels laced >>>>>>> white industries rear hub Paul front hub both velocity wheels Shimano >>>>>>> xt / >>>>>>> xtr drive train Nitto front and rear racks Woodys fenders Paul >>>>>>> component >>>>>>> touring brakes with half moon hangers Albastache bars leather wrapped >>>>>>> TRP >>>>>>> retro brake levers . Nitto lugged stem and seatpost This is a Waterford >>>>>>> hand made frame with a Joe bell paint job . Rare as hens teeth . I’m >>>>>>> 5’8” >>>>>>> fits like a glove . I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t ride it like >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> should be . Freshly tuned with fresh Schwalbe Big Ben tires cables and >>>>>>> housing . I can get into more sizing specifications just dm me . >>>>>>> Willing to >>>>>>> ship conus . Not sure about international but would consider . Keeping >>>>>>> saddle pedals and skewers . That’s negotiable too . Thanks for looking . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/share/1LdM1uxJ1T/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: riv custom.jpg] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, May 14, 2026 at 1:25:21 PM UTC-4 Dan wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've got a couple larger Rivs for sale locally here in Reno, but >>>>>>>> open to shipping or meeting up within a couple hour drive. Please >>>>>>>> contact >>>>>>>> directly via Craigslist post with any questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 64cm Quickbeam: >>>>>>>> https://reno.craigslist.org/bik/d/reno-rivendell-quickbeam-64cm/7928841263.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 65.5cm Road custom Waterford: >>>>>>>> https://reno.craigslist.org/bik/d/reno-rivendell-custom-road-bike/7928843724.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 23, 2026 at 3:54:11 PM UTC-7 [email protected] >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Toyo Atlantis sale is pending. I inquired about the frame >>>>>>>>> size. I got no answer. I'm not interested in buying it, just curious. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 10:44 AM Jamie D. <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Insanely good deal on what appears to be a Toyo Atlantis: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1609258427478015/?ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A4dfc36a8-6ac3-4e0d-a920-a6f56a4d3ac9 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 21, 2026 at 11:24:34 PM UTC-4 >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a unique one >>>>>>>>>>> <https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-sport-touring-bicycle/7929219008.html> >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> sale near Seattle. I (think) a Road size 63 made by Match. The >>>>>>>>>>> serial is >>>>>>>>>>> R80M, with a 63 stamped on opposite side of BB. Owner, Tom, is >>>>>>>>>>> responsive. >>>>>>>>>>> Says it has 25s because it's not one of those modern Rivs, but is >>>>>>>>>>> unsure >>>>>>>>>>> what would fit. He pulled a tape measure for me, but I'm not sure >>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>> accurate. >>>>>>>>>>> Seat tube- 22.5 inches >>>>>>>>>>> Saddle height in photo is 31.5 inches >>>>>>>>>>> top tube is 22.5 inches. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [image: 00r0r_guwwHGNs2HH_0CI0t2_1200x900.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>> Matt in STL >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2026 at 5:00:17 PM UTC-5 Bryan H wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My friend is looking for a new commuter bike, hoping if anyone >>>>>>>>>>>> near the Portland area has a hillborne, Appaloosa, Atlantis, >>>>>>>>>>>> roaduno in a >>>>>>>>>>>> 51cm. Willing to pay for shipping. Thank you! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bryan in Walnut Creek >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 14:07 [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 57cm Roadini in Overland Park, KS (Kansas City area) >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1541515940743425/?ref=browse_tab >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not mine, just sharing! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 12, 2026 at 11:14:53 PM UTC-5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am selling my 45cm Clem L in Santa Fe, NM - it has less >>>>>>>>>>>>>> than 25 miles on it! Here is my craigslist ad. Would love a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> local-ish buyer >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but happy to have it boxed and ship at buyer’s expense if you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>> elsewhere. It is a beauty and comes with lots of goodies (Front >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Rear >>>>>>>>>>>>>> racks, Brooks saddle, etc.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://santafe.craigslist.org/bik/d/santa-fe-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-45cm/7903765592.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kara >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2026 at 3:01:53 PM UTC-6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 60cm Rivendell Platypus Complete Bike - $3,650 (Berkeley) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/berkeley-60cm- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rivendell-platypus/7921031381.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Atlantis 2 - $3,500 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/davis-rivendell- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atlantis/7924626188.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1996 Rivendell All-Rounder 59.5cm - $3,800 (Sacramento) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/sacramento-1996- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rivendell-all-rounder/7921379016.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no affiliation whatsoever with any of them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2026 at 1:20:26 PM UTC-7 mm wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheap blue Ram' outside of Glendale, AZ. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/bik/d/phoenix-rivendell-rambouillet-bike/7924834939.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: 2026-04-01_13-19-17.jpg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, April 1, 2026 at 8:40:32 AM UTC-7 Drew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fitchette wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Per Bill's note(and my quick clicking of the wrong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread), dropping this here to bump in back to the top! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 45cm Clem in Sarasota >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sarasota.craigslist.org/bik/d/sarasota-rivendell-bicycle/7921186337.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 59cm Susie in Oregon City >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/bik/d/oregon-city-2024-rivendell-susie/7924802670.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2026 at 11:15:22 AM UTC-4 Drew >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fitchette wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No affiliation, but XL Lugged Susie in Tacoma: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yellow Susie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bik/d/olympia-rivendell-susie-longbolts/7923445694.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2026 at 9:43:50 AM UTC-4 Elisabeth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sherwood wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This appeared in the Washington, DC Craigslist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yesterday.... 54cm lugged Roadini. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (no affiliation...) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New 54cm Rivendell Roadini - bicycles - by owner - bike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sale - craigslist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/doc/bik/d/washington-new-54cm-rivendell-roadini/7922503366.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Liz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Washington, DC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/13baba48-1569-47ea-bd5f-08919a0b6e5dn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/13baba48-1569-47ea-bd5f-08919a0b6e5dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/32190938-02e2-4258-a6ae-1c26564d63cbn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/32190938-02e2-4258-a6ae-1c26564d63cbn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/W4Id0anP0B0/unsubscribe >>>> . >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5f83ceed-9e9c-4f52-86c4-a1f4d4de9a6fn%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5f83ceed-9e9c-4f52-86c4-a1f4d4de9a6fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/W4Id0anP0B0/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/dd27a76f-fcfe-4682-a249-42465bbe4518n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/dd27a76f-fcfe-4682-a249-42465bbe4518n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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