Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something
"right" about 650B with fenders on a larger frame.  Here's Noel on his
aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3828775512/

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.



On Aug 16, 6:45 pm, Tim McNamara <tim...@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Rob Harrison wrote:
>
> > On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
>
> >> Bingo.  650B is a "weird" even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the  
> >> US bike-buying public.  People will be afraid they'll be stranded  
> >> with a bike they can't get tires for.
>
> > LOL, well, being part of the 0.837% is where I have resided for  
> > most of my working life as a green architect, so I guess it's only  
> > fitting I ride a 62cm 650B bicycle.
>
> That made me chuckle.
>
> > Perhaps by the time I order my custom randoneause there will be  
> > lightweight, supple 700 x 38 tires, or I will have lost 30 lbs so  
> > 700 x 32s will work fine for me. :)
>
> I weigh 210 (probably closer to 220, judging from the fit of my  
> jerseys, but I don't like to say it) and had a very nice ride this  
> evening on my bike with Panaracer Paselas 700 x 25s pumped to 115  
> psi.  Smooth, comfy, pleasant tires. The didn't seem any less  
> comfortable than my 700 x 28 Paselas as 105 psi or my 26 x 1.25s at  
> 100 psi (also Paselas).  I've never been a member of the Phat Tire  
> Phan Klub, other than the spare tire of fat around my middle, but a  
> lot of people seem to really like chubby tires.
>
> > I did realize 3/4's of the way to Portland on the STP that I'd be  
> > SOL if I ripped a sidewall on one of my Hetres, which, it turns  
> > out, I nearly did: <http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/
> > 4817049422/in/set-72157624011191725/> I think it was basically me,  
> > Ryan Nute, Frank Fulton and a buddy of his riding 650b on that  
> > ride, and I didn't see any 650b tires at the mechanic's stations.  
> > It didn't occur to me to carry a spare tire.
>
> In retrospect, yeeks!  Glad you got through it without undue  
> difficulties.
>
> Having said that, though, My Buddy Doug (he of the optional  
> adventures, which is a number of long and entertaining stories) had a  
> bead failure like yours in the photo except it actually blew out  
> along 2-3 inches.  He was about 50 km from the end of a 300K or 400K  
> brevet.  Maybe it was the 600.  Doesn't matter, only that he had  
> about 50 km to go with a blown-out bead and no spare tire.  Nobody  
> else had a spare either and he was pretty close to the middle of not  
> much of anywhere.  But Doug did happen to have a tube of superglue  
> he'd put in his pocket for uncertain reasons.  He glued the tire  
> sidewall around the bead, put the tire back on, pumped 'er up and  
> rode in to the finish to the amazement of the other randonneurs.  I'd  
> heard the story from someone and chuckled because this was just  
> another one of Doug's many optional adventures.  A week or two later  
> he and I drove down to watch the Nature Valley Grand Prix stage in  
> Mankato MN and rode our bikes to cut off the race and see them out of  
> town, then rode back in to watch the finish.  I had time while riding  
> to ask Doug for the story and he filled me in on it.  I asked if he  
> still had the tire so that I could see it; he replied "It's still on  
> the front wheel, I'll show you when we get back."  A week or two and  
> several bike rides later, mind you.
>
> Moral of the story:  Superglue.  Good stuff.  Take some along.  Just  
> in case.
>
> You know, there is another benefit to 650B I've noticed but forgot to  
> mention in my other post.  On many bikes, conversions or built-fors,  
> 650B wheels often have a visual rightness to them that is quite  
> remarkable.  To my eyes there is a certain proportion that looks  
> right on different wheel sizes- 700 x 28, 650B x 38, 26 x 1.25.  I  
> don't know if there is a consistent mathematical relationship there.
>
> I ride a 60 cm 26" wheeled All-Rounder from 1996.  No stranger to  
> long head tubes, so 62 cm with a 650B looks downright normal to me.  
> A 63-64 cm frame (the Riv size I'd ride nowadays) with 700Cs still  
> has a pretty long head tube...

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