On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 12:27 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> > Having to deflate the tire wasn't a quality control issue, but rather
> > the consequence of the decision to go with horizontal dropouts, I
> > believe.
> 
> Making the dropouts a tiny amount shorter would have solved that one.

Not really.  I had a frame builder remove as much from the dropouts as
he safely could.  I could get Col de la Vies out without deflating...
and then I switched the bike to Pari Motos, and I'm back to having to
deflate the tire to remove and replace the wheel.



> 
> > And that, in turn, is traceable to a desire to accommodate
> > both internal gear and derailleur drive trains.
> 
> 
> >  As for the chain
> > rubbing the seat stay, no idea about that - it doesn't happen with
> > either of my 650B P/Rs.
> 
> happened, iirc, on all of the 700c P/Rs.

I think the 700C P/R was an ill-advised hack.  Matthew should have left
well enough alone and Just Said No.



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