The VO's are my favorite.  I've used the 57mm brakes from Tektro,
Shimano and Paul Racer M's too (on my Rambouillet).  The VO's are
stiffer, more powerful and more nicely constructed than the Tektro's
and Shimano's - no contest. Tire/fender clearance on the VO's is
comparable with other good 57mm reach brakes.
The VO's perform as nicely as the Paul's, IMO.   I prefer sidepull
brakes over centerpull brakes, so the VO's are the clear choice for
me.

Michael_S is right about the opening width.   The VO's open wide
enough for a true 30mm tire, depending on how tightly you set the
cable.


On Sep 27, 11:54 pm, Michael_S <mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
> I've gotten feedback from a few who've used them. Both said they were
> far better in stiffness and modulation than either the ShimaNo or the
> Tektros.  I'm about ready to buy a pair for my new-to-me Ram. The only
> down side I've heard is that the Tektro's open wider. With a Tektro
> lever with the QR button they will barely clear a Jack Brown was what
> I heard. M Racers open wider.  The Pauls look incredible but I wanted
> to stay with sidepulls on this bike ( got Paul braze-on's on the
> Randonneuse)
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Sep 27, 8:24 pm, James Valiensi <valie...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > I've had the Paul's Racers and now the Crus. The Crus stop better and don't 
> > squeal, at least that has been my experience.
> > I don't see why the Crus would not be as durable as the Paul's.
> > Both brakes are CNC machined from aluminum plate. They are not forged or 
> > castTime will tell though, but the Crus are much cheaper.
> > Cheers!
> > On Sep 27, 2010, at 6:15 PM, JoelMatthews wrote:
>
> > >>  I'd take that to mean VO believes them to be better  than Silvers and 
> > >> Paul's.  Can anyone confirm or deny this claim?
>
> > > Paul Racers have been around for years, have a very loyal following,
> > > and stop bikes as well as any rim brake made.  The Crus are brand new
> > > to the market, dual pivot not center pull, not as robust as the Pauls,
> > > and in my opinion anyway (and having only seen the Crus on line),
> > > nowhere near as good looking.
>
> > > Under the circumstances I have not a clue how anyone can confirm VO's
> > > puffery. Certainly it is impossible to say the Crus will be as durable
> > > as the Pauls. The best one can say is that it would be an amazing
> > > feat, indeed, if the Crus are better than Paul.
>
> > > To put things in perspective, when VO was selling custom made
> > > Randonnuers instead of the stock frames (which it is dropping in any
> > > event) it offered Paul's at a discount with the frame purchase.  I
> > > seem to recall the VO text saying Paul's were the best brakes out
> > > there.
>
> > > On Sep 27, 5:35 pm, Adam Kimball <adamfkimb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Hi,
>
> > >> In my search for the best brakes, I've been thinking about trying the
> > >> Velo Orange Grand Cru brakes.  In their marketing copy they mention
> > >> that the brakes are the best of "every other" long-reach brake caliper
> > >> they have tried.  I'd take that to mean VO believes them to be better
> > >> than Silvers and Paul's.  Can anyone confirm or deny this claim?
> > >> Certainly nice looking brakes..
>
> > >> -Adam
>
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