I believe this discussion is what lead to the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Noel <emiller3...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm an admirer of both Grant and Jan, but...
>
> DougP and I traded bikes during a ride a few months back. His high-
> trail Riv and my French style rando with super low trail. Both, IIRC,
> with loaded front bags. The short version is that, while there were
> differences, they were pretty minor, and both bikes were pleasant to
> ride at speeds from 5 MPH to 40 MPH.
>
> I put a bunch of effort into understanding geometry while learning
> frame building, but that day more-or-less put the issue to bed for me.
> Reading the trail debate can lead the reader to believe that it's
> absolutely critical and that the wrong choice will have worse
> consequences than failing third grade, but the reality is that, within
> reason, you really do "get used to" just about any reasonable
> geometry.
>
> Which hopefully frees us up to talk about less contentious topics,
> like religion or politics.
>
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Cheers,
David
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probably benefit more from
improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS

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