Beth,

Don't think of it as out-growing the frame so much as out-growing a
particular setup on that frame.    Angus makes a good point about just
keeping albatross or porteur or some other kind of upright, low-reach
bar on the bike.     Typically you need a frame with a longer TT to
run those bars anyway-- because in most cases the reach of the bar is
actually negative (the bars put your hands behind the steering
axis).

Anyway I hope you find the comfort sweet-spot on it.   I'm sure that
you & that bike have been through a lot over 12 years.


Matt


On Dec 30, 7:47 am, Angus <angusle...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Beth,
>
> I'm 6 foot and middle aged, don't know that I have shrunk much, but
> things have changed.
>
> I was on a ride with the local bike club, riding next to a 20 year old
> LBS mechanic (riding a Surly Steamroller with very low drop bars) and
> middle aged lady.  The young man and I were chatting about handle bars
> and he asked why my bars were so high..."Low bars make my back
> ache."..."But my back doesn't ache."..."Yes, but you're 20."  Mechanic
> looks confused....middle aged lady starts to laugh.
>
> In the mid to late 90s I was fine on a 59.5cm Road Standard, now I'm
> fine on a 64cm Rambouillet.  Touring bike was a 59cm All Rounder, now
> a 64cm Atlantis.
>
> I took my 59cm All-Rounder and converted it to Albatross bars (RBW
> made me a 14 or 15cm lugged stem to get the bars in the right place).
> I ride that bike after I have done something stupid and have a back
> ache.  I can ride forever on that bike...my "bad back" bike.
>
> Low bars...I'm "beyond that" now :-)
>
> Angus "Middle age has benefits...a tolerant back isn't one of them"
>
> On Dec 29, 11:42 pm, b hamon <periwinkle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if any of you have had a custom frame that you rode for years and 
> > more recently have found that the top tube has become too long for you? I 
> > would guess this happens more noticeably to the short-torsoed among us, 
> > since as we age our spines compress and those with shorter torsos feel the 
> > difference in the reach to the handlebars sooner than everyone else.
>
> > But I'm beginning to suspect that this may be happening to me with a 
> > 12-year-old custom frame that is no longer comfortable with drops on it 
> > (even with the shortest Nitto Techie I can find). My suspicion may have 
> > been confirmed at the doctor's office this week when I discovered that I 
> > was not only no longer 5' 7", I apparently haven't been for some time.
>
> > For someone who is, in her family of origin, very, very short (my sister 
> > and all my cousins topped out at 6' or more), it was a crushing blow, for 
> > at least ten minutes.
>
> > Seriously, has this happened to anyone else? Is it possible to "outgrow" 
> > (or outshrink?) a custom frame? --B

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