and then there is organized bike rides that have 100's of people driving many miles to ride a bike a short distance then drive back home. In St Louis, Mo Trailnet has one of these type rides weekly. I would wager a single weekend ride here wipes out all the progress the comuters make in one day. Not saying don't comute, just saying I don't see cycling as green. It's entertainment for most folks or exercise but also an excuse / reason to drive thier cars many more miles. Cycling has many uses and is wonderful .. but riding just for green reasons is or would be weak for me. I ride because I like riding. Kelly
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