I get it; comparing different things. Thanks. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote: > That strength-comparison is based on the axle being the weak component in the > hub. With Phil hubs (and some others too, I'd guess) the axle is so > over-built that even in the case of the freewheel the axle simply isn't > likely to fail, even under the likes of me! > > So the idea is that uneven spoke tension rises to the top of the pile of > compromises one would like to mitigate/eliminate in the built wheel. So > reduced dish, as available with an IRD-style Phil FW hub when compared to a > Phil cassette hub, becomes a more valuable component of the wheel than a > strengthened axle. > > And yes, I have bent a Shimano axle and ruined a Deore hub that way. One of > my failed wheels. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > On Feb 14, 2011, at 7:57 PM, JoelMatthews <joelmatth...@mac.com> wrote: > >>> Can you (or someone else) explain why this is so? I thought the whole >>> point of the cassette hub design was greater strength because the axle >>> is supported by bearings further out to the right. So what makes this >>> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub? >> >> That is what I have heard as well. Obviously I have no problem with >> FW hubs - I've never even owned a set of cassette hubs - but always >> thought maybe I was giving up some strength to the people riding on >> those new fangled thangs. >> >> On Feb 14, 5:59 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean >>> >>> <thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Generally, the 3-people-who-actually-know-these-things that I contacted >>>> all implied or stated outright that a wheel built around a Phil Wood >>>> IRD-style FW hub would be stronger than one built with a cassette hub, all >>>> else equal. >>> >>> Can you (or someone else) explain why this is so? I thought the whole >>> point of the cassette hub design was greater strength because the axle >>> is supported by bearings further out to the right. So what makes this >>> fw hub stronger even than the Phil fw hub? I must admit that I am >>> skeptical of this 3-person claim, but I am open to enlightenment. >>> (Ommmmm ....) >>> >>> As to Phil track hubs, I learned today that the bearings on my 2Xf >>> fixed Phil are fine after almost 11K miles: the roughness was the >>> not-fully-tightened spacer. >>> >>> Patrick "no dish, no worries" Moore >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >
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