"Its my thought that a "bike" climbs about as good as the legs
powering it !"

Indeed... one can only blame bike geometry so much for how hard it is
get up some hills...  I just like the feeling that when I'm pushing
hard into the pedals, it's clearly turning into forward, upward
momentum.  On some longer bikes, it feels squishy, slogging or
something... which might be a question of perception.  Given
equivalent gearing, and speed during an ascent, why do some bikes feel
"faster" than others?

Delivery date is 1st-2nd week of July.  The elves in Wisconsin get the
call sometime this week I was told.

On May 8, 6:25 pm, cyclotourist <cyclotour...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Whoo-hoo, when's delivery???
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> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:42 AM, TSW <tsesun...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for all the replies!  I was at Riv yesterday and asked them for
> > a steep hill or two to climb.  Tho' I'm just on the other side of the
> > Culture-stop tunnel :-) I'm not terribly familiar with the area, like,
> > how to get to that little known hill known as Mt Diablo.  So who got
> > on a bike to take me for a ride but Grant himself.  He was on a single
> > speed of some kind, cruiser style, but double top tube to be sure, and
> > I took out the same 52 Sam I'd take out before.  And we went up some
> > very steep hills, paths, and a road to a nearby water tank with views
> > of hwy 24 and Walnut Creek.  I've been off my bike since early Feb and
> > I could barely keep up with him on some ascents, and I'm in decent
> > shape (just not bike shape).  He's clearly in more decent shape.
>
> > I think it doesn't climb quite like my Trek, but it's far better than
> > the LHT.  I just needed to be sure, as later I did the deed-  Yikes!
> > (The last time I bought a road bike was in 1986, and I spent 10%-- non-
> > inflation adjusted).  I decided to get the front rack and cream
> > longboard fenders to get a really good swallow of the koolaid.
>
> > So I left with a cake of pine soap, a Riv-branded plastic change
> > purse, my credit card a bit lighter, and, later, growing feelings of
> > anticipation.
>
> > On May 4, 6:30 pm, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > I don't find the Sam Hillborne bad at hill climbing.  Although with
> > > the longer chainstays, it isn't the quickest thing in the world.  Will
> > > probably feel slower than your Trek.  And, like Patrick, I can feel a
> > > bit of wheel flop at certain speeds, and with certain tires.  With my
> > > style of riding, it really doesn't become an issue.  Spent Sunday
> > > climbing quite a few hills and at no time did the bike wander to the
> > > point where I felt unsafe, even on roads with traffic and minimal
> > > shoulders for riding.
>
> > > And compared to the LHT the Rivendell is a more spirited climber.
> > > Also happen to own a 26 inch wheel LHT and while stable and
> > > predictible, it will definitely not win any hill climbing contests.
> > > Unless of course, your opponent is on a Bakfiets.
>
> > > Eric Platt
> > > St. Paul, MN
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> > > On May 4, 9:53 am, TSW <tsesun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > I've searched all over forum archives and can't seem to find much
> > > > discussion on this question: how does the Sam climb?
>
> > > > I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a 52 (ideally I'd ride a 54,
> > > > and 56 is just a tad too big), my 26 yr old Trek 560 ready to retire,
> > > > and I'm used to a more aggressive geometry for climbing the hills
> > > > around here.  I'll need to to test ride a Sam again, as Riv HQ isn't
> > > > too handy to a steep hill.  I took out a Surly LHT (52/26 in) recently
> > > > up a fairly steep hill and found it sluggish.
>
> > > > But in the meantime, I wonder what're folks' thoughts on how the Sam
> > > > does on hills.
>
> > > > TIA,
> > > > TS
> > > > Berkeley
>
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> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would
> probably benefit more from
> improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS

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