it's about 82.6 cm at the middle of the tt, with Mara Racer 35c's pumped up to 
70psi.  
goes up to 84 as you slide forward.

so it's comparable with the QB numbers.   

i was thinking 56 based on the charts, and was advised to go to 58 or even 60.
and per the site suggestion my pbh of 84.5 minus 23-25 is a 60 cm frame..

extremely glad i didn't go 60 - would have been waaaay too big, with a negative 
standover and much too long top tube.  the 56 would have been fine too, i 
think, with a regular 10 cm stem instead of the rise-giving dirtdrop.  i've got 
short arms and legs, and a long torso (5'11) - this 58 with dd stem and rando 
drops stretches me out plenty far, moreso and with the seat not as far back as 
on the Sam / Rom (same seats/posts) with their bullmoose / m-bars, respectively.

best,
andrew

On May 30, 2011, at 4:22 PM, redsydude wrote:

> 
> Could you measure and report the mid top tube standover of your
> simpleone explicitly?  The quickbeam chart says 83 and 85 cm standover
> for the 58 and 60 cm bikes respectively. In one of the rivendell
> messages they said PBH minus 23 or 25 cm for the simpleone.  That
> would put you (and me) on a 60 cm bike. Since the simpleone isn't
> expanded geometry, I was planning to go as big as possible but
> something doesn't quite add up.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom
> 
> On May 29, 8:54 pm, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ok - she is built:  my 58cm DosSimple:
>> 
>> http://salamander.net/stage/SimpleOne/(picture names starting with "built").
>> 
>> first impressions:
>> --------------------
>> - rides like glass.  even more than the cantiRom or Sam Hillborne I have.
>> - these wheels feels as stiff as the 36 hole Deore XT Mavic 765 on my Sam, 
>> but feel as light and  accelerate as easily as the 20 spoke aero Neuvation 
>> wheels on my Rom.
>> - even without racks this one feels extra rigid and comfy both at the same 
>> time, compared to my others.
>> - doesn't want to stop.  the momentum on flat ground is just insane, and 
>> even going up hill it feels easy.
>> - even more eager than the Rom, totally absent the laid back sedate glide 
>> feel of the Sam.
>> - i love the noise of the freewheel.  i feel 12 again.
>> - much less standover than i expected in a 58cm.  i've got like.. .5 cm, 
>> maybe in keens, and none barefoot (pbh of 84.5).
>> - a taller, narrower ride than i expected, partly due to the 10cm DD stem 
>> and 45cm rando bars... i'll probably get used to it, but i'd sure love if 
>> these were a couple cm wider on the flats.  the flared drops, however, are 
>> just about perfect, and the Sram Road levers' flare nicely meets that of the 
>> rando bars.
>> - it feels like i'm up a lot higher than on the 56 Sam w bullmose or 59 Rom 
>> w 7cm lugged + m-bars, though "balancing" on the Simple is easier (on Mara 
>> Racer 35s, compared to the Sam with Mara Sup 40s and the Rom with Mara Racer 
>> 30s).
>> - 38 x 16 gearing won't be too easy, which i was concerned about... wonder 
>> how the long final hill in my commute is going to be - don't think i'll have 
>> to change rings, but...
>> - installing the brakes and cables this time was a lot easier, now that i've 
>> done it wrong on at least two other bikes.  
>> - a "4th hand" makes adjusting the straddle cable trivial.
>> - i should have sprung for a WI chainring lockring tool before starting the 
>> build. the "alternative" 5-pin Park one they recommend really isn't ideal.
>> - the Tektro CR720 brake pads hit the inside of the fork/chainstays when 
>> straddle is released.  that's the way Rivendell build my Sam, it turns out, 
>> with these same brakes, so i guess that's ok.
>> - i'm suddenly concerned that my other two Rivendells aren't going to get 
>> much love this summer.
>> 
>> still to install (except for bar tape, this is all pending arrival in the 
>> mail):
>> ---------------
>> - BG clips, ss
>> - Tubus Logo, ti
>> - lights
>> - orange newbaums and shellac
>> - small right side drop bar end mirror
>> - and i'll probably add a mini-front rack as well... th
>> 
>> - i may abandon these bars for m-bars.  
> 
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