I think I probably rode the same 2 bikes when I visited RBWHQ last
Fall... (I think the AHH I rode belonged to Keven?)  I liked them
both, but the Hilsen felt more refined, and for me won hands down for
looks...  Now, later at Riv Rally East I rode the Hillborne, and
absolutely loved the way it felt.

I guess I concluded that you can't go wrong with either... If money is
not a deal-breaker, my choice would be to go with the Hilsen.. it's
simpy too beautiful, and I can't imagine ever second-guessing my
choice...  But I'd also feel great riding a Hillborne.

Fortunately I don't have to make that decision (yet)... I'm really
lovin my Bombadil.

BB

On Aug 16, 9:47 pm, Seattle Smitty <[email protected]> wrote:
> I stopped at RBWHQ on a road trip with the family in April and rode a Sam
> and AHH back to back. Intentionally comparing the 2... I'd been eyeing them
> online and was somewhat stumped/ perplexed by the claim of the Sam as the
> poor-man's Homer. Why shell out the extra dough if it's just a more
> expensive version of the same bike?
>
> They seemed different enough to me. I'm sure some of the difference was
> because of the variations in the builds (I don't remember the specific
> components of the test ride bikes but the Sam was perhaps 60/40 in favor of
> country riding and the Homer was 60/40 in favor of urban riding), but even
> adjusting for the different builds in my mind (not quite sure how that
> works), the difference of my experience riding one vs the other was enough
> to me that I decided to save a few more nickels and wait until I could get a
> Homer.
>
> It wasn't that the Sam was "bad". It was fun to ride... comfy + solid
> feeling + zippy enough.  I've re-test ridden the Sam at a LBS here in
> Seattle that has a 60cm on the sales floor just to see if the Sam could win
> me over to save the cash. I've been tempted to buy the Sam at the LBS just
> 'cause it would be instant gratification, but instead a couple months back,
> I put money down on a Homer from Walnut Creek.
>
> The Homer just seemed like a better fit for what I want in my next bike... a
> zippy around town light errand runner/commuter, weekend camper, and
> leisurely fun rides with the option to zip occasionally. The Homer was
> noticeably crisper in handling, stiffer (in a quick + responsive sort of
> way) and zippier. I'm 180lbs and don't really have aspirations of a big tour
> so the increased load carrying of the Sam isn't a selling point for me. I'm
> not interested to ride anything rougher than a dirt road so the big tires +
> beefy tubes of Hunq/Bombadil would be overkill for me. Even if the Roadeo
> came in my size I want the option to put racks on it so that's not an
> option. I might have considered an Atlantis if they came off-the-shelf in my
> size but again, not interested to tour.
>
> On top of the handling I think the Homer is a prettier bike. The blue is
> gorgeous. Homer is more proportionally "normal". The head badge is cooler. I
> like the Sam but I also like the Surly Cross Check. I was completely smitten
> by the AHH in a way that I've never been smitten by a bike before.
>
> Anyway, that was my experience riding them back to back. Hope this is
> useful.        

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