On Nov 10, 2011, at 1:00 PM, tdusky wrote: > The canti long-lows were called all all-arounders.
I have a 1996 All-Rounder and it is not the same bike as a Long-Low. The original All-Rounders were all 26" wheel bikes with cantis and were based on the ideas behind the Bridgestone XO-1. It was designed to allow the use of 2" knobbies down to 1" slicks. The All-Rounder was one of the first three original Rivendell models (Road, Mountain and All-Rounder). The A/R used (IIRC) larger a diameter top tube but I think the same diameter down tube as the Road, whereas I think the Mountain used oversize top and down tubes (could be wrong about that, my recollection about those details is fuzzy). The Long-Lows came along a year or two later, I think about the time I placed my order (I vaguely recall Grant alerting me to the new model in between my placing the order and production starting. I stuck with the A/R but in retrospect should have gone with the Long-Low for the uses I have ended up putting it to). The Long-Lows were 700C bikes with long-reach sidepulls, although as some folks have mentioned they could be ordered with cantis; I don't remember if that was an option from the get-go. They were designed as road bikes with a lot of clearance for fenders and/or fat tires, much more so than the Road model of the day. They had a lower BB and a longer wheelbase (hence "Long-Low") than the Roads but used (IIRC) the same tubing. None of the original 3 models or the Long-Low were initially conceived of as custom frames. However, Grant started doing tweaks for individual uyers early on and pretty quickly the bikes became customs. In those days it was all 753 with 531 forks <nostalgic sigh>. The Atlantis is a several-years-later bike based mostly on the All-Rounder and the XO-1 before it. My recollection is that the first run or two of the Atlantis used 26" wheels on all sizes and then later 26" on the smaller bikes and 700C on the larger sizes (smart idea). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
