This is intriguing -- but see GP's comment in the most recent post: "The bike isn't a normal road or trail or touring bike. It's something else. It will DO those things, because it's a good all-around bike..." It's hard to imagine he would characterize a Scorcher single speed as a touring bike -- and even harder to see it fitting the original June description:
* elegant to an extreme without being a sissy, foppish, nostalgic bike. * not for extreme riding. Basically for everyday use. You could ride across the country on it, easily. You could (and I will) take it on trails. I'm still mystified -- will we get the Big Reveal tomorrow? ________________________________ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Till Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 9:15 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Odd New Bike (HS) My own wild speculation: We know that this frame is made to work with the new bars coming out as well, previously referred to as the "BU" or "Back Up Bar," which is a vaguely cruiser-ish upright bar in the style of Nitto Albatross/Promenade, or various Wald bars. Looking at the photo, something which struck me was it seemed like the top tube was relatively long for the seat tube size. And this would make sense for using a swept-back bar like this, and suggesting that this bike is Grant's attempt to design a bike more specifically for bars like this, rather than previous models which are designed to work equally well with all the types of bars that Riv sells. What else do we know about the frame, aside from the weird asymmetry and the presence of carry-strap braze-ons? It has horizontal dropouts but no specific provisions for an IGH, suggesting that Grant intends it to be used for single-speed or fixed-gear usage at least some of the time. It also doesn't have canti posts, suggesting that it is made for (at most) ~40mm tires and fenders, assuming it uses 55-73mm reach sidepulls. So, a frame with a long top tube to accomodate cruiser-ish swept-back bars, to be used, at least some of the time, as a single-gear bike, with relatively narrow (by Riv standards) tires? This is a Rivendell Scorcher. At least, my bet is that the "S" in "HS" is for Scorcher. Or some kind of tribute to early 20th century american frame design, even if it has gears. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SuDFhzZbIfsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ **************************************************** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. **************************************************** **************************************************** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. **************************************************** ============================================================================== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.