Thank you, Jan and Ryan!
I will try the "Deluxe" method on my next fender installation.

- David G, Madison WI


On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Jan Heine <hein...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On Dec 23, 10:15 am, David Yu Greenblatt
> <david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't fully understand how the "Deluxe" Honjo hardware works. Does it
> > replace the standard "R-clips" to attach the stays to the dropouts?
> http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-389/Honjo-Hardware-Deluxe-A...http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/fenders/honjo-r-cl.
> ..
>
> The "Deluxe" hardware is a copy of the hardware on 1980s Rene Herse
> bikes. It replaces the eyebolts on the (unthreaded) dropout eyelets,
> where the stays attach to the frame. Instead of clamping the stay
> between eyebolt and cup, the stay is held in the eyebolt with a set
> screw.
>
> You can use the "Deluxe" hardware with threaded eyelets: You put a
> little rubber (or leather) washer underneath the head of the eyebolt,
> screw it in as far as you can, then back off a little until the hole
> lines up with the stay. Insert the stay and tighten the set screw. I
> did that on my new Herse, which did not have room for a nut on the
> other side of the eyebolt.
>
> Traditional French bikes did not use R clips. (Since the stay is off-
> center with the clip, you have a greater tendency to loosen. In
> practice, however, that rarely happens.)
>
> Jan Heine
> Editor
> Bicycle Quarterly
> http://www.bikequarterly.com
>
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