Many of my non bicycler friends think that riding 25 miles is Xtreme.

It's a strange thing that as a country we have increasing rates of obesity and 
great fascination with
Xtreme physical events. 

 Do I recall correctly that there is/was a tv show having something to 
do with Xtreme food or eating?

Xtremely yours,
JimD

On Jan 26, 2012, at 8:52 AM, robert zeidler wrote:

> Cycling, while I love as much as any activety, and certainly more than work, 
> is only one of the things I want to do in life. 
> 
> On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Patrick in VT <swing4...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 26, 10:42 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  > Just a matter if time until we have extreme bowling.
> >
> > Another good point.  What is driving people to the "extreme,"
> > especially amateur athletes?   Of course, it's all relative - but I
> > think for many amateur/recreational athletes, once the sense of
> > accomplishment that came from completing an endurance event (let's say
> > a marathon) becomes stale or commonplace (now that it is fairly common
> > to see people walking large parts of marathons), they want to push
> > harder for a PR or go farther to regain that sense of accomplishment.
> > I have no evidence of this, but the current boom with triathlon and
> > "extreme" (in the Mt. Dew/X-games sense of the word) endurance events,
> > like the Tough Mudder, seem to be a direct result of events like a
> > marathon becoming too average.  there's no cachet to it anymore.  so
> > they go bigger, and that's a slippery slope.  it's really pretty ego-
> > centric.
> >
> > like most things, i think there's a healthy balance.  it's good to
> > have goals.  challenge ourselves a little, or even a lot.   competing,
> > even at the recreational/amateur level, can be a very motivating,
> > healthy experience for people of all ages.  I also think there is a
> > misconception about "training" -  the athlete the exercises with the
> > intent to compete can be said to "train," but it's just exercise.  in
> > other words, anybody who enjoys doing any kind of aerobic exercise for
> > more than 30mins is training.  we can't go out and enjoy a couple
> > hours on our favorite roads without maintaining some aerobic
> > fitness.   and anybody who wants to improve their fitness - maybe be a
> > little stronger on the hills or turn a 15mile ride into a 30mile ride
> > - is training.  competitive athletes just exercise a little
> > differently.  and i bet a lot people would be surprised at what a
> > structured "training" program looks for a competitive amateur
> > cyclist .. .. it's not killing yourself everyday or working so hard
> > that you want to throw up.  far from it.
> >
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