I just did a brevet in Gainesville. 200k, nothing too nuts. Big fun.
It IS a free country so to each his/her own. Riding all night is Ok if
that's one choice.

But not in south of France unless that's where you ride all the time.

On Thursday, January 26, 2012, jimD <rasterd...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Many of my non bicycler friends think that riding 25 miles is Xtreme.
> It's a strange thing that as a country we have increasing rates of
obesity and great fascination with
> Xtreme physical events.
>  Do I recall correctly that there is/was a tv show having something to
> do with Xtreme food or eating?
> Xtremely yours,
> JimD
> On Jan 26, 2012, at 8:52 AM, robert zeidler wrote:
>
> Cycling, while I love as much as any activety, and certainly more than
work, is only one of the things I want to do in life.
>
> On Thursday, January 26, 2012, Patrick in VT <swing4...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 26, 10:42 am, robert zeidler <zeidler.rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  > Just a matter if time until we have extreme bowling.
>>
>> Another good point.  What is driving people to the "extreme,"
>> especially amateur athletes?   Of course, it's all relative - but I
>> think for many amateur/recreational athletes, once the sense of
>> accomplishment that came from completing an endurance event (let's say
>> a marathon) becomes stale or commonplace (now that it is fairly common
>> to see people walking large parts of marathons), they want to push
>> harder for a PR or go farther to regain that sense of accomplishment.
>> I have no evidence of this, but the current boom with triathlon and
>> "extreme" (in the Mt. Dew/X-games sense of the word) endurance events,
>> like the Tough Mudder, seem to be a direct result of events like a
>> marathon becoming too average.  there's no cachet to it anymore.  so
>> they go bigger, and that's a slippery slope.  it's really pretty ego-
>> centric.
>>
>> like most things, i think there's a healthy balance.  it's good to
>> have goals.  challenge ourselves a little, or even a lot.   competing,
>> even at the recreational/amateur level, can be a very motivating,
>> healthy experience for people of all ages.  I also think there is a
>> misconception about "training" -  the athlete the exercises with the
>> intent to compete can be said to "train," but it's just exercise.  in
>> other words, anybody who enjoys doing any kind of aerobic exercise for
>> more than 30mins is training.  we can't go out and enjoy a couple
>> hours on our favorite roads without maintaining some aerobic
>> fitness.   and anybody who wants to improve their fitness - maybe be a
>> little stronger on the hills or turn a 15mile ride into a 30mile ride
>> - is training.  competitive athletes just exercise a little
>> differently.  and i bet a lot people would be surprised at what a
>> structured "training" program looks for a competitive amateur
>> cyclist .. .. it's not killing yourself everyday or working so hard
>> that you want to throw up.  far from it.
>>
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