Patrick,

Interesting comment. It seems to confirm a suspicion I have but lack
the varied experience needed to be sure of. Namely that the
variability between good and bad implementations of a given style of
brake is greater than the inherent variation between designs.



On May 10, 6:18 pm, PATRICK MOORE <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Replying to Jim: Jim, the difference between the only really nice
> cantis I've used, the IRCs that came stock on my ersthwhile Sam Hill,
> and all the Vs and Avid BB7s I've used, is noticeable. The IRCs were
> easily as powerful as the Vs and probably more powerful than the
> Avids, but the power was fully linear: squeeze harder, gradually, and
> the retardation increased in direct proportion. Vs and, even more, my
> BB7s, require a much more finicky touch if they are not to grab.
>
> This is not a big deal: the "grabbiness" is minor in the overall
> cosmic scheme of things, but it is indeed noticeable.
>
> Me, I still generally prefer, in order, BB7s (for ease of wheel
> changes and setup and power), Vs (ease of setup and power) and only in
> third place cantis. (I leave out calipers which I like for road bikes;
> this comparo is for off road bikes.)
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> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:58 PM, EricP <ericpl...@aol.com> wrote:
> > Have my SimpleOne set up with 720s and my Sam Hillborne with Deore V
> > brakes.  I do notice a difference.  The 720s modulate, but they don't stop
> > as well, IMO.  At least not quickly.  Had to really plan out a stop at the
> > bottom of a descent today.  Eventually will swap pads to see if that helps.
> > If not, maybe new brakes in the future.
>
> > Luckily, did not need to strip finish off my brake bosses.  If so, I would
> > have just cut a strip of sandpaper and buffed the post like I was shining a
> > shoe.
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> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
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> > On Thursday, May 10, 2012 7:01:09 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
> > wrote:
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> >> I wonder why folks value modulation so highly? In my view, the primary
> >> purpose of brakes is to stop effectively, and therefore, the more powerful
> >> brake is my usual preference. With v-brakes, scrubbing speed in tight
> >> downhill corners or whatever isn't difficult at all to modulate, UNLESS you
> >> are accustomed to squeezing the bejeezus out of cantilevers to get the same
> >> result, in which case the v-brake will seem to lack modulation. In that
> >> case, the brake is hard to modulate because the rider has no finesse on the
> >> brake lever. No problem though, because it's easy to learn the necessary
> >> finesse.
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