Interestingly enough for me the idea was to get lower than that -
closer to the 250mm of the Mariposa.  I didn't quite make it but
between the drop I did achieve and the reduced trail the handle of my
(now departed) Heron Road was wonderfully light compared to the same
bike with 700x28's.

-Ken

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:21 PM, William <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> For me the big deal is BB height before and after.  Plan it out and try to
> keep it at or above 260mm.  This bike measured 265 with 700x20 tires.  If I
> went to 650x32, it would drop me 7mm lower into the danger zone.  650x38
> drops me 1mm (plus any tire sag), so it should be perfecto.
>
>
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 11:03:55 AM UTC-7, MichaelH wrote:
>>
>> Sounds exciting.  I have an 84 Trek 620 that I have considered for
>> conversion, but have never gotten up the courage or $$.  For now, I've taken
>> off the fenders, which gives me good clearance for JBs.  Keep us posted on
>> how this goes.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Monday, May 21, 2012 1:55:57 PM UTC-4, William wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm in the midst of a 650B conversion that I'm pretty excited about.
>>>  I've acquired a 1984 Miyata 912, and it's getting resurrected.  The major
>>> enhancement in my eyes is that I'll be converting it from a solid road bike
>>> that can take 700x25c tires without fenders, into a bike that can take
>>> 650x38B tires with fenders.  This conversion has a couple new aspects for
>>> me.  The clearance at the forks and the seatstays was wide enough for
>>> Hetres, but it was cozy down at the chainstays.  I researched a little
>>> through the various forums and on flickr and got my courage up to crush the
>>> chainstays a little bit to make some extra room.  That worked great, and
>>> I'll go at it again if I actually decide to run Hetres.  For now it'll be
>>> Soma B-Lines.
>>>
>>> The other highlights are that I'll be running the new, lighter weight
>>> Velocity A23 650B rims, exclusively available from Longleaf in New
>>> Hampshire.  Those rims, along with some advice from Anthony at Longleaf has
>>> got me convinced to give tubeless a try.  I'm a little freaked out by the
>>> concept, and I'm nervous that I'll make a mess of the whole thing, but at
>>> the same time I'm excited to learn something new.  Finally, this bike will
>>> be the home for a Sugino compact double that I beautified as my first bike
>>> part polishing project.  It was a 52/42/30 130/74mm crankset, that I've
>>> converted to a chainguard/42/26.
>>>
>>> This bike is tagged to become my new commute bike.  I've been using the
>>> Bombadil for my daily commute.  That commute involves bike on the roof of
>>> the car in the morning (carpool), and then a bike/BART commute home in the
>>> evening.  The ride home from BART is 2 miles, 600ft of climbing.  The Bomba
>>> is obviously smooth, rugged, and reliable.  The shortcomings are that the
>>> Bombadil is heavy for the roof rack, heavy for BART steps, and heavy for the
>>> 600ft climb, not to mention valuable to be subjected to 30 miles of freeway
>>> roofrackage every morning.  This Miyata will essentially be everything a
>>> Bleriot or a Betty Foy would have been for me.  Hopefully I can have it
>>> running by next week.
>>>
>>> pics show some of the progress:
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629709054752/
>>>
>>>
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