"So what is the obsession with stiffer tubing,"

Hmmm. Sorry cant really say, find it a bit much myself.
I have noticed differences, particularly climbing standing and
"jumping".
With a stiff bottom bracket there is an immediacy of forward response
when you stomp a pedal, which I might characterize as "responsive".
With a more flexible one the chain may intermittently rum on the fd
cage as you climb out of the saddle.
Some folks say a bike feels "dead" if nothing moves when they shove or
pull on it.
If you ride a loaded bike and the seat tube and head tube don't stay
in plane, handling can suffer.
I think its mostly stuff like that.

Perhaps somebody who feels stronger about it can give a better answer.

On Aug 6, 7:42 pm, Peter Morgano <uscpeter11...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So what is the obsession with stiffer tubing, in all seriousness? The only
> bike I can remember flexing under me so much I noticed it was my Look
> KG96 and it was CF which is supposedly super stiff, but it was more that I
> was afraid at 250lbs of destroying it rather than being bothered by the
> flexiness. I can remember back in the day reading about how pros loved 531
> due to its "springiness" while climbing, is the trend towards super stiff
> just yet another marketing ploy? I wish I had the money to have 4
> totally different bikes to be able to ride them all back to back but at my
> weight and riding conditions I rock the bombadil which while stiffer than
> my old Raleigh International is certainly not dead feeling, then again I
> only have one top tube, thankfully.
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> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 19:21 -0700, ted wrote:
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> > > I wouldn't say a complete kook, but a bit kooky maybe. Certainly he
> > > even describes himself a well outside of mainstream thought on these
> > > topics. I suspect that "planing" is only mostly settled in the view of
> > > those who believe Jan (which I doubt is a majority of any relevant
> > > group except perhaps BQ subscribers).
>
> > Well outside the "stiffer is always better" school of thought, for sure.
> > A downright heretic in that respect.  As for the rest, don't be so sure:
> > they referred to what he calls "planing" as "a lively ride" back in the
> > day, and bikes that had it were highly respected and enjoyed.
>
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