On Thu, 2013-02-21 at 14:25 -0800, Mark R. wrote:
> I had no issue with indexing and Campy above the bb cable guides.  Not sure 
> why that would be an issue anyway.

Well, the issue (the only one I know about, the Campy above bb cable
guides was a question, as they do it differently now) with the older
tandems was that the cables ran through holes drilled in a flange below
the front bottom bracket shell (the front bottom bracket shell on those
tandems is split, clamping around a moveble eccentric bottom bracket
shell within a shell) and there was too much friction where the cable
passed through the hole, making rear index shifting unpredictable and
inconsistent.  It took a while to identify the source of the problem,
too.

I don't recall any other cases where older style frame design caused
problems retrofitting indexing, and obviously, this issue is
tandem-specific.  Other than width, the only other obvious changes in
frame design I can recall are that cable guide and rear derailleur
hanger.

Older AM-series Moultons had a rear derailleur mount that was said to be
to SunTour rather than Shimano specifications, and some have claimed
that difference causes trouble when converting those bikes to modern
index shifting.  My AM, an early 80s model, has the old style
dropout/derailleur hanger, but with a modern derailleur and bar end
shifter it indexes perfectly with 8 speed Hyperglide, so I'm not sure
how much of an issue the derailleur hanger actually is in practice.

The older frames had narrower rear triangle spacing, but that's not a
potential indexing problem, it's a matter of getting a wider hub to fit
in there.  As Sheldon has pointed out, you could upgrade a 7-speed
cassette hub to 8 speeds without spreading the triangle and fitting a
130 hub with the "8 of 9 on 7" method, and some have even tried "9 of 10
on 7".



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