On Friday, February 22, 2013 2:15:54 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:
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>
> The problem with budget Rivs is that they tend to evolve quickly in the 
> fancy direction, and the budget-ness fades quickly. The Hunq was supposed 
> to be the budget model a couple years back. Now it's $2k.
>
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Yes, I've followed Riv since 1999 and it seems that's the way most frames 
have gone. I don't know anything of the economics of frames, but surely 
there is a way to make a less costly frame, it's all a matter of their 
focus to really do it. 

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