Deacon,

I doubt it's as quiet as a cotton chambray shirt, but it is as quiet as an
old 60/40 cotton/nylon jacket I have. I absolutely cannot abide a noisy
jacket. . .

Cheers!

lyle


On 9 May 2013 22:16, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote:

> Thank you, Lyle. Could you do me a favor and tell me how much noise it
> makes compared to a cotton chambray shirt? I generally avoid nylon because
> it makes more noise than that.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 7:23:17 PM UTC-6, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Deacon, I'm coming late to this thread but I'll add my thoughts anyway.
>> I've used many different shells for a variety of activities such as
>> cycling, running including mountain and trail running, climbing, skiing,
>> and on and on. I've really enjoyed this jacket:
>>
>> http://www.bicycleclothing.**com/Waterproof-Breathable-**
>> Rain-Jackets.html<http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Jackets.html>
>>
>> I've used it cycling, running, and bouldering in the high desert area of
>> Arizona when I worked on the Navajo Reservation, Cycling, rowing, and
>> running in the Pacific Northwest, and now out here in mid-coast Maine. It
>> is tough as nails, very well thought out, and due to the benefits of the
>> long pit zips and vented back, I've stayed dry enough (whatever that
>> means), neither soaked from within or without.
>>
>> Made in the US for what that's worth and a decent price as well.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> lyle
>>
>>
>> On 9 May 2013 19:49, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Tim. Do you, or anyone else on the list, have experience with
>>> how much more double ventile works than single?
>>>
>>> What sent me searching is not anything directly from yesterday, but had
>>> I been out camping yesterday, I would have loved to be less damp when I
>>> stopped cycling. My core was lightly damp, my arms wringably damp but not
>>> soaked and I was toasty warm.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:14:41 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>>
>>>> Raingear simply doesn't work at keeping you dry if you are doing
>>>> something like riding up a hill.  There is no point in worrying about
>>>> staying dry because it's not going to happen.  You are either going to get
>>>> wet from rain or wet from sweat.  The main thing is to avoid hypothermia if
>>>> it is cool and wet, especially when descending.
>>>>
>>>> My single layer Ventile jacket is one of the best "breathing" jackets I
>>>> have used, but it is a showerproof rather than rainproof jacket.  The
>>>> Greenspot jacket is double layered Ventile- less breathable but resistant
>>>> to water intrusion longer.
>>>>
>>>> As for "rain" jackets, my Showers Pass is the best I have used.  It is
>>>> well ventilated and made from eVent material.  It won't keep you dry for 6
>>>> hours in a downpour, but then in those cases you should probably be
>>>> indoors.  ;-)  In a long soaking rain with little wind, I would prefer my
>>>> Carradice rain cape.  The ventilation is about as good as it gets and just
>>>> the tops of my arms and shoulders get damp with sweat.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 9, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In my experience if a jacket needs ventilation zips it isn't breathable
>>>> enough even with them.
>>>>
>>>> With abandon,
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:42:44 PM UTC-6, Norman R wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know ventile, but I'd like pit zips.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:14:18 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a single layer ventile jacket. It's great for rain/wet snow 2
>>>>>> hours or less, but soaks through after that (like yesterdays 6 hour 
>>>>>> ride).
>>>>>> I'm looking for ideas that meet these criteria:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- Highly breathable. No less breathable than ventile.
>>>>>> -- At least as hearty against brush, briers, and branches as ventile.
>>>>>> -- Hood option, ideally removable/stoable.
>>>>>> -- Shell only for year-round use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I"m considering Hilltrek's Greenspot Double Ventile, but it is pricy.
>>>>>> http://www.hillgear.**com**/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_**Doub**
>>>>>> le_Ventile_Jacket.html<http://www.hillgear.com/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_Double_Ventile_Jacket.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With abandon,
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>
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