Very helpful, Lyle. May be worth a shot. Thank you!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Friday, May 10, 2013 5:10:52 AM UTC-6, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com wrote:
>
> Deacon,
>
> I doubt it's as quiet as a cotton chambray shirt, but it is as quiet as an
> old 60/40 cotton/nylon jacket I have. I absolutely cannot abide a noisy
> jacket. . .
>
> Cheers!
>
> lyle
>
>
> On 9 May 2013 22:16, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Thank you, Lyle. Could you do me a favor and tell me how much noise it
>> makes compared to a cotton chambray shirt? I generally avoid nylon because
>> it makes more noise than that.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 7:23:17 PM UTC-6, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Deacon, I'm coming late to this thread but I'll add my thoughts anyway.
>>> I've used many different shells for a variety of activities such as
>>> cycling, running including mountain and trail running, climbing, skiing,
>>> and on and on. I've really enjoyed this jacket:
>>>
>>> http://www.bicycleclothing.**com/Waterproof-Breathable-**
>>> Rain-Jackets.html<http://www.bicycleclothing.com/Waterproof-Breathable-Rain-Jackets.html>
>>>
>>> I've used it cycling, running, and bouldering in the high desert area of
>>> Arizona when I worked on the Navajo Reservation, Cycling, rowing, and
>>> running in the Pacific Northwest, and now out here in mid-coast Maine. It
>>> is tough as nails, very well thought out, and due to the benefits of the
>>> long pit zips and vented back, I've stayed dry enough (whatever that
>>> means), neither soaked from within or without.
>>>
>>> Made in the US for what that's worth and a decent price as well.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> lyle
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 May 2013 19:49, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, Tim. Do you, or anyone else on the list, have experience with
>>>> how much more double ventile works than single?
>>>>
>>>> What sent me searching is not anything directly from yesterday, but had
>>>> I been out camping yesterday, I would have loved to be less damp when I
>>>> stopped cycling. My core was lightly damp, my arms wringably damp but not
>>>> soaked and I was toasty warm.
>>>>
>>>> With abandon,
>>>> Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:14:41 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Raingear simply doesn't work at keeping you dry if you are doing
>>>>> something like riding up a hill. There is no point in worrying about
>>>>> staying dry because it's not going to happen. You are either going to
>>>>> get
>>>>> wet from rain or wet from sweat. The main thing is to avoid hypothermia
>>>>> if
>>>>> it is cool and wet, especially when descending.
>>>>>
>>>>> My single layer Ventile jacket is one of the best "breathing" jackets
>>>>> I have used, but it is a showerproof rather than rainproof jacket. The
>>>>> Greenspot jacket is double layered Ventile- less breathable but resistant
>>>>> to water intrusion longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for "rain" jackets, my Showers Pass is the best I have used. It is
>>>>> well ventilated and made from eVent material. It won't keep you dry for
>>>>> 6
>>>>> hours in a downpour, but then in those cases you should probably be
>>>>> indoors. ;-) In a long soaking rain with little wind, I would prefer my
>>>>> Carradice rain cape. The ventilation is about as good as it gets and
>>>>> just
>>>>> the tops of my arms and shoulders get damp with sweat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 9, 2013, at 4:53 PM, Deacon Patrick <lamon...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In my experience if a jacket needs ventilation zips it isn't
>>>>> breathable enough even with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> With abandon,
>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 2:42:44 PM UTC-6, Norman R wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know ventile, but I'd like pit zips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, May 9, 2013 3:14:18 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a single layer ventile jacket. It's great for rain/wet snow 2
>>>>>>> hours or less, but soaks through after that (like yesterdays 6 hour
>>>>>>> ride).
>>>>>>> I'm looking for ideas that meet these criteria:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Highly breathable. No less breathable than ventile.
>>>>>>> -- At least as hearty against brush, briers, and branches as ventile.
>>>>>>> -- Hood option, ideally removable/stoable.
>>>>>>> -- Shell only for year-round use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I"m considering Hilltrek's Greenspot Double Ventile, but it is
>>>>>>> pricy. http://www.hillgear.**com**/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_**Doub**
>>>>>>> le_Ventile_Jacket.html<http://www.hillgear.com/acatalog/copy_of_Cycling_Double_Ventile_Jacket.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With abandon,
>>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> *www.OurHolyConception.org*
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