And this may be heresy but you can have your cake and eat it too by joining 
supported tours.
In a few weeks I'll start Sierra 2 the Sea. Rode it a couple of years ago and 
had a blast.

JimD  (Mr. Wimpy)

On May 31, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Anne Paulson <anne.paul...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dirty clothes every day? Hard, uncomfortable pad? Giving up the delicious 
> food I like? *Shakes head utterly baffled*? What's the point of being 
> uncomfortable and suffering? If I wanted to be uncomfortable, I wouldn't have 
> bought a Rivendell.
> 
> I think I'd like touring with Kelly. We have the same touring esthetic. 
> Comfort, good food, hot coffee in the morning. I'm domestic about my touring: 
> I like to settle into my comfortable home under the trees every night. Not 
> for me the furtive after-dark sneak to the spot.
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Deacon Patrick <lamontg...@mac.com> wrote:
> Laundry? Change of clothes? Full sized sleeping pad? Food other than boiled 
> or grilled? *Shakes head utterly baffled* What's the point of leaving home if 
> you take it with you? Grin.
> 
> For me, it was a revelation that I could, on the bike, bring a real tent and 
> my Kelly Kettle and enough clothing that I needn't huddle in the sleeping bag 
> at on cold evenings -- so we started at opposite sides of the spectrum. Have 
> a wonderful trip!
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> 
> On Friday, May 31, 2013 9:13:17 AM UTC-6, Kelly wrote:
> So the first car just left the driveway on their way to Norfolk.  We'll get 
> out of here about 1pm when I get off work. 
> 
> Went for another loaded ride last night.. bike is just so sweet.   I had my 
> wife hide the other camera and lenses so I wouldn't be tempted.. in my mind I 
> keep thinking "what's another 10 pounds at this point"
> 
> The load is good.. I guess I just don't see how people travel much lighter, 
> and still cook / not just boil and such.   It would be easy to cut say 10lbs 
> but it's stuff I would miss and that gets used.   I"ve been on tours where I 
> set stuff home via ups because I wasn't using it, but this is the stuff that 
> gets used daily. 
>  
> I could save 2lbs with a smaller thermo rest... nope the comfort is much 
> better as is.  
> Save another 2 to 3 lbs with a smaller tent... .naaaa... much to nice on 
> stormy nights as is with two of us... oh.. off load 1/2 the tent on Dawns 
> bike!  now that would save me 4lbs right there.
> Save 2lbs with fewer days of clean clothes and do laundry more often... not 
> worth it.
> Save 4lbs by not taking the large saddle sack...  but what a loss for grocery 
> hauling and picking up things along the way.
> Save a 2lbs by not taking coffee and french press.. NOT in this LIFE TIME
> Save a couple of pounds riding smaller tires..  really I thought of that.. 
> sheesh
> Drop a pound geting rid of the kickstand
> 
> I think it's time to think about adding camera stuff.. it's only weight and I 
> have lots of gears.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:03:17 PM UTC-5, Kelly wrote:
> We are headed for a week on the Cowboy Trail.   Here is the Bomba after she 
> was loaded up and test ridden.   
> 
> Managed some high speed down hills, dirt, curbs, coffee and assorted 
> ramblings.    She's ready for the ride. 
> 
> Here are some photos in front of the House.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893702606/
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893054333/
> 
> The coffee shop --
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8893701496/
> 
> So I tried to pack lighter this time around.  Though I ended up with lots 
> more space / room the weight only dropped about 5 lbs.  So in the photos is 
> 70lbs of gear including bag and pannier weight.  That's ok I traveled a lot 
> of miles at 80ish pounds so why fight it. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On a side note I took the AHH to the Horsey Hundred this last weekend.  
> Carried about 15 to 20 lbs of camera gear and stuff both days and had a great 
> time.  
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8892736746/
> 
> Note the large saddlesack makes a great camera case with the addition of some 
> foam padding... 
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8603144807/in/set-72157632471917923
> 
> 
> Have a great week next week while I'm riding my bike... 
> 
> oops another side note..... of the 9 people going with me from St Louis for 
> this ride, there are four Rivs, all from the St Louis area.  Not to mention 
> but a beautiful Bruce Gordon, 2 LHT, a Giant OCR Tour (my old one), and the 
> Holdsworth resurrected again as a loaner bike.
> 
> 
> One more day of work and I'm outa here.. !!!
> 
> Kelly
> 
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