Crikey! You take a short break from the list and alluva sudden, you're heading the committee! ;^)
Yeah - so... OK. I'll compile a list of takers/wanters/those-who-will-in-fact-pony-up. Please do this: Email: cyclofi...@gmail.com Use a Subject Line: SimpleBeam Order Include your name, email and a simple statement of desire to be in the queue. State frame size, quantity. DO NOT GIVE any payment information - I cannot be responsible for your payment security (and you should never, ever put that in an email anyway...) Please note - I do not work for Rivendell Bicycle Works. I am wrangling this just to keep one iron in a separate fire for GP. I'll keep you up to date, and will advise Grant on a regular basis as to the quantity of solid SimpleBeam confirmations. Once we close in on ~30, I'll end up handing the reigns off to the fine folks in Walnut Creek. I won't know delivery dates or any specifics, obviously. Does that work for folks? - Jim / cyclofiend.com / cyclofi...@gmail.com On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:53:57 PM UTC-8, grant wrote: > > Nothing's ever for sure gone for good, but here's the thing with the > SimpleBeams (forgive the gross generalizations used to make the point > without accounting for exceptions. I will use "everybody" not in the > literal sense): > > Everybody moans the loss of a bike they didn't buy when it was availabe. > The SB was always the slowest seller of all time, which in itself isn't the > end of the world, but what it means for us is---it was a cash flow killer. > We pay fully for 100 of them about two months before they arrive. Then it > takes a year and a half or two years to sell them. > One thing that seems to happen is--when something's readily available, > it's meh...and when it's gone, the heart grows fonder genuinely--and maybe > people who would have been buyers when the bike was around have just > learned about it and think hey I'd like that. But there is a small tendency > to overenthuse about what can't be had. I do it myself with other things in > my life. > *Dang, they quit making that ______ I've hemmed and hawed about and > admired for years, but never wanted enough to buy, but now that I can't buy > it, shoot!*I don't mean that's rampant here, and I DO like that the bikes > are so well-liked. Me too. I sold my QB when I needed money, figured I > could always get a SO, and now they're gone and I want one more than ever. > So---I'm not just an observer of this phenomenon, but a participant! > If we could pre-sell 30 of them. Paid two-months before they arrive > (that's when our payment is due), I'd stick my neck out and order 100. This > time they'd be slightly different, and the danger of this hypothetical > scenario is that it would open a debate about what's the difference between > the new and old, which is preferable, then a vote, and it all gets weird > and half the people who expressed willingness to get a new one now feel > dis-listened to and bummed because it didn't go that way. > So...i'd be innnnnnerested only if I had free secret rein to tweak it this > way and that, still resulting in a killer one-speed, but not a clone of the > SO, which was a clone of the QB. It might be any color, any name, any kind > of break, any anything. I totally get that ordering semi-blind isn't easy > to do. The unblind part of the semi is: Track or horizontal dropouts angled > to allow pad contact over a wide range of chainlengths, like QB/SO. Two > bottle mounts, rackable. good clearance. Basically Sam-like with diff > dropouts. Probably sidepulls but could be cantis. A perfectly good color, a > good name, a nice badge, a really great singler. > > Serious agreers will PM cyclofiend (Jim! So sorry,,,,please forgive > me...but these months I have so many kaleidiscopes in my head that I can't > have another one), and if the list reaches 30 (meaning you'll have $1200 > by Dec 2014 for the frame/fork/headset, and the money won't evaporate in a > divorce or unforseeable crisis), then we'll get some good frames. > > I have a full plate and I know it seems so bad to say I can't answer > questions about this, but for the next few months I probably can't. You can > try, and I'll try, but I'm at my physicalemotional limit, and ... can't > promise. If you send a postcard, I'll respond with a postcard. > > Is this all too much? Probably. Sorry again. > > If nothing happens now, I think the bike will happen again later, but it > may be an extra year or two. > > I know there are lots of options out there. I'm not trying to make this a > difficult mystery bike. My crazy proposal......is the only way that makes > sense for us right now. > > Thanks.. > > Grant > > On Friday, November 22, 2013 7:09:49 PM UTC-8, Christopher Murray wrote: >> >> I was wondering if anyone knew why these bikes are no longer made. They >> seem very popular and the people who have one seem very pleased. I have >> heard several state it is their favorite bike. I assume that the QB went >> away due to The Lord of the Rings name and became the SO- but why no more >> SO? >> >> I assume it was too much of a niche product and too expensive. In other >> words, not enough people willing to pay the better part of $2,000 for a >> bike with one (or four) gears. I imagine it must cost as much to make a Sam >> as a SO but people aren't willing to pay as much for the SO. It seemed to >> me like even the description of the SO on Riv.com was a little apologetic >> about the price. >> >> Anyone know the story here? Willing to speculate? Are they gone for good? >> >> Cheers! >> Chris >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
