One of my favorite setups as seen in the RR was the "Riv'd" out Surly Pugsley...
Ryan On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 8:15:32 PM UTC-8, grant wrote: > > We here are all fans of Surly and regularly (if not constantly) refer > people to them, when ours are clearly out of range. I've often said, at > least to myself, that a high compliment to any bike, even tho it doesn't > sound like a compliment, is that it's Not Dumb. Surlys are not dumb. That > is huge in an age of manydumbikes. So many bikes, even and especially super > costly ones (not just the cheap ones trying to look like the super costly > ones) are dumb (of course by my standards, I'm not saying they're > objectively stupid)--and Surlys are smart. They're still (good). They fit > decent tires and racks and fenders. > But buying a bike isn't like buying a pen or a wallet. It has to fit, has > to have the right parts on it for the riding and the weather and the > weight. > Surly copy Riv? You know, early on I heard it from a reliable but not > ironclad source that one of the early Surlys copied exactly the geometry of > a Bstone RB-1...but that's not a RIV, and if I cared about that I wouldn't > publish our geometries. If somebody thinks they're worth copying, please > do! More smarter bikes will be out there in traffic then. > Years ago, the Gios Torino catalog was a crackup in that way. Every frame > from 46 to 64 (those were the size) was listed as having parallel 75-deg > seat and head tube angles. Why publish THAT? > In the '80s or '90s---what's a decade here or there?--the Eddy Merckx > bikes geometries were almost complete, and I think even EVEN had the > front-center measurement. But the head tube angle was listed as > "proprietary." That was funny. > > We had an interview with Dave Gray (Surlyguy) in an old RR. I've never had > a bad experience there and have never heard any Riv employee denigrate > Surly, ever---and it's not because they have orders not to, it's because > they like the bikes, as do I ! > > Surly has done a lot of good out there, continues to, and I can't speak > for Surly people, but I can speak for me, and I'm sure all Rivpeople > agree...and we are fans. The brands diverge at some point, but neither is > dumb. > > G > > -- > Grant > Rivendell Bicycle Works > www.rivbike.com > 925 933 7304 > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
