I agree with Jim M. The title of the OP is "Who was RBW back in the 1960's?" Then the post itself asks who made the finest lugged steel frames in the USA in the 1960's. Those are two questions. The implication is that they are equivalent questions, but I agree with Jim M in pointing out that they are VERY different from one another. The implication of the OP is that RBW today is the finest maker of lugged steel frames in America, which is absurd, mainly because RBW doesn't make any frames, but also because so few Rivendells are made in America. Mark Nobillette makes some of the finer frames in America and he happens to make some custom Rivendells, but Mark Nobillette is not RBW. RBW certainly makes some very fine bicycle designs (I have 3). RBW is almost certainly the most influential brand in terms of influence per bike sold. The really underrated work that Riv does is in lug design, IMO. In order to answer the question of who was RBW in the 1960s, you'd have to define who is RBW in the 2010s. If you want to talk about the very best framebuilders of both eras, that's very cool, but it has a lot less to do with RBW.
On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:23:42 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: > > > On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:40:25 AM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote: >> >> On 12/17/2013 12:22 PM, Jim M. wrote: >> >> But the question isn't just who are among the best American frame >> builders today; it's in the 1960s. And in the 1960s, Peter Weigle had yet >> to move to England, along with Richard Sachs, to learn how to build >> frames. As was mentioned, Albert Eisentraut does date to that period, >> having begun in 1959. >> >> > Yes, Steve, I agree with you. I'm just pointing out the difference between > the questions asked, using an example from today. > > I have an Eisentraut, too, though from the '70s. From what I know of his > history, he built race frames almost exclusively. He was probably the best > American frame builder of the day, but I don't see him as compararble to > Riv. > > jim m > wc ca > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
