Another thing you might consider is playing around with the bar's height 
and angle. Lower bars = farther reach, similar to a longer stem. It took me 
a lot of trial and error to find the right combination for me.

Jay

On Tuesday, December 31, 2013 5:58:07 AM UTC+2, Robert Barr wrote:
>
> I agree with Jay. I have his old 10 and it fits me well. But I think it 
> all depends on the initial sizing  - did you go big Riv or smaller?
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
>> I had that setup on an AHH that was already a bit big on me (read: 
>> longish toptube). I ended up selling cockpit and frame (separately) so 
>> never made the swap, but I would have purchased a 13 stem to replace the 
>> 10. My experience with Albas is that the sweep-back is significant. 
>>  
>> Joe Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA.
>>
>> On Monday, December 30, 2013 6:09:27 AM UTC-8, blakcloud wrote:
>>
>>> I am not happy with the Albatross bar and the 10 cm stem that I have on 
>>> the Sam now. I feel a little cramped in the cockpit and so a longer stem is 
>>> needed/wanted. Some where on the Riv site I remembered reading to get a 
>>> longer stem with this bar setup, but how much longer? The choices are 11, 
>>> 12 and 13 cm stems. 
>>>
>>> My inclination is to get a 12 cm. What are other people using, what 
>>> would you suggest? 
>>>
>>>
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