There's definitely a way to make the seat tube angle 71.5 on all the
bikes, and since Grant likes a seat tube angle of 71.5, and he's the
designer, that's what the bikes have.  But notice, if you make the
seat tube angle more relaxed on a smaller bike, that necessarily moves
the saddle backwards and makes the top tube longer. And that's why
Grant's small bikes have longer top tubes: precisely because of the
slacker seat tube.



On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Elisabeth Sherwood
<elisabeth.sherw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Re. the Soma San Marcos, I think the geometry figures with respect to the
> seat-tube angle are incorrect -- there's just no way that every size frame
> has a seat-tube angle of 71.5!  And I've NEVER seen a small road bike where
> that's even possible.
>
> -- Liz
>
>
> On Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:51:58 PM UTC-5, art wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Anne, et al, for starting this thread. My 'life partner' (about
>> 5'2") has had a 51cm/26" wheel Rambouillet for a decade, which she loves. I
>> finally got it set up right for her (a few years back) with short reach
>> drops and a *5* cm stem -- no way to make the top tube shorter! I've been
>> looking for a rain bike frame for her for awhile....and was mostly looking
>> for older Schwinns and Treks with nice tubing. But I hadn't considered the
>> Soma San Marcos: very interesting, particularly the very slack seat angle!
>> (I'm using a high-setback seatpost on my partner's bike, rather than the
>> nice Nitto it came with)
>>
>> Does anyone know if one can fit 38mm tires (would like to use the Soma
>> B-lines) on that bike *with* fenders? That's the design goal of the bike I
>> want to build for her...
>>
>> By the way: true that the Pacers come small, but look at that seat angle!
>> (75.5) That's going to make the top tube *very* long, once you get the bike
>> set up comfortably! (notice that the reach is almost the same on the 42cm
>> frame as on the 54cm.. only .4 inches=1cm difference)
>>
>> If these frames can take 38s plus fenders, I'm going to start selling old
>> frames to finance one...
>>
>> Art
>> Tacoma
>
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