Mike - I have a 54 Hunq and a 59 AHH (similar to the Sam).  I'm 5'11" and 
160 lbs for reference.  I would definitely heed others advice here, and 
also say that both bikes would likely be great.  I find the two are 
definitely different in feel, with the Hunq being stiffer, and only 
slightly heavier.  They both feel great, and with the same wheelset are 
very close with the difference to me just in weight and stiffness.  I like 
a little flex and lightness, so...

If it were me knowing what I know now, I would start with a Hillborne (or 
AHH) as it will do 99% of what you want.  Probably 100% - they are both up 
for touring.  I do a mix of commuting, mountain riding, and randonneuring. 
 The AHH excels at all of these, and the Hunq excels at the mountain, and 
would be 2nd to the AHH on the other two unless you carry 20 lbs on your 
commute.  I prefer a strong minimal bike for the application, and also 
having a couple bikes that are set up for a specific application is a 
luxury I choose to pay for.  

Here are some stories and pics of both bikes with different setups if you 
want to do some casual reading :)

http://www.stonehog.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets

Good luck, and enjoy whatever comes!  Rivs are great bikes!!

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:31:32 AM UTC-8, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages 
> associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should 
> finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as 
> near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for 
> (probably all psychological, but still). 
>
> I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any 
> touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have 
> plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking 
> forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with 
> camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip.
>
> Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter 
> now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple 
> front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager "Commuter" 
> tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto 
> Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, 
> but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping 
> trips.
>
> I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a 
> bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out 
> for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a 
> good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components 
> from the Cannondale to the new frame.
>
> Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with 
> these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, 
> diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd 
> be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the 
> Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around.
>
> Any help is much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>

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