For a new welder I think shade 11 is too light, you shouldn't be able to see 
anything sheild down, arc off. Once you get the arc your eyes will adjust and 
you can see more, there's also not a lot that you would want to see. There's 
also a lot to learn to recognize from what you can see and how to read the 
puddle.  I've been welding for better than 5 years and anything less than shade 
12/13 gives me headaches, and I've even been known to wear sunglasses under the 
hood with a 13 plate in it
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From: Neil Rochford <[email protected]>
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Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:31:46 
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Subject: Re: [TANKS] Re: Could someone help me with this please ?

more good advice thanks, 
I`ve done an inch or two of welding along a piece of 1.5mm bar ,havnt 
actually joined anything together yet,
it took about 40 very bad attempt's and I blow a hole in the end of it but 
I feel like I`ve made a small step into a new world. I started with the 
Amps on lowest and after each desaster I turned up until I created a steady 
arc.
Im using a No 11 shield I`ve put a lamp near the work piece and I still 
cant see a dam thing.
This is as hard as people have said it would be but Im making some progress 
after half an hour.
Neil R

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