When we did some user interviews lately, we found that not all young
users act like the stereotype "young users" act, and some older users,
even faculty researchers, DO act like the stereotype of "young users".

I think the goals people are claiming under the mantle of "young users"
really are appropriate and needed. Many of our users, young and old,
sophisticated and naive (in terms of research and in terms of
technology), really DO need things to be different than what we are
providing them, and a lot (but not neccesarily all) of this change
really is because of what they (young and old, sophisticated and naive)
have come to expect from other web services.

The problem is the assumption that this is "young users". It's all kind
of users.

Are there still other kinds of users (that cross age boundaries too,
probably) that need other things too? Should public libraries make sure
the illiterate are served too? Sure.  An academic library's patrons
probably are mostly literate, but do we need to continue to serve people
who are unfamiliar with and uncomfortable with technology too?
Certainly. And those people also come both young and old, both
sophisticated and naive.  And I doubt we're serving them very well either.

But anyway, the assumption that _all_ "young users" want a certain thing
is no more or less flawed, at least in our library, as the assumption
that _all_ sophisticated older faculty researchers want pretty much
exactly what we're giving them, and none want simpler or less confusing
interfaces.

Jonathan

Miksa, Shawne wrote:
That everyone talks as if the only group of users are young people or young 
students really angers me. I would agree they are the most predominant, 
evaluated group of users, but why do we constantly talk as if they are the only 
group?  Last year I attended a two-day visioning task force concerning 
libraries in Texas and everyone was obsessed with re-imagining libraries to 
cater to the needs/whims of this one group--the Google generation, the digital 
natives. In our closing session one gentlemen stood up, and I apologize but I 
can't remember his name, and stated quite bluntly that Texas has something like 
a 40% illiteracy rate. (And, I have to add that over the years I graded paper 
after paper from both Undergraduate and MASTERS students some of whom display 
an incredible lack of writing skills--unable to write even the most basic 
sentence, unable to synthesize the most fundamental concepts of information 
organization.)

What happened to our responsibility to reach ALL the users of our information 
systems and thus our collections of resources both physical and virtual? What 
happened to our responsibility to help them connect to information and to 
learn? I understand the need to create a good information system, but are we 
basing this on the needs of one group of users out of many?  The organization 
of information is much much deeper and more profound than that. That is what I 
see RDA potentially helping us to do. How it does it still needs research and 
evaluation.

Lastly, when did the situation become stating "why library catalogs are still a better solution to many 
problems of searching"?  Is this an "either/or" decision or "this system is better than 
that system, therefore don't use that system at all, ever" situation?  Library catalogs are one among 
many searching solutions and, yes, they do deserve to be improved. Perhaps I misunderstand what Bernard is 
saying.

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Shawne D. Miksa, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Department of Library and Information Sciences
College of Information, Library Science, and Technology
University of North Texas
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://courses.unt.edu/smiksa/index.htm
office 940-565-3560 fax 940-565-3101
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Jonathan Rochkind
Digital Services Software Engineer
The Sheridan Libraries
Johns Hopkins University
410.516.8886
rochkind (at) jhu.edu

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