Okay this is part of where I get confused and all of the various articles, books and sites I have been going to haven’t helped me. RDA is a content standard but at least one thing I have read says that content standards should be used in combination with structure standards (DC, MODS, LOM) or Format/Encoding Standards (MARC, XML, SGML). So can I just use RDA by itself without any of these and if so where can I find examples, because I haven’t found any on the RDA Toolkit. Most of what seems to be there is RDA combined with XML or MARC. We are designing our database out of Equella so I don’t think I can use either. The only examples that I have found that weren’t XML or MARC were the cataloger’s scenarios at dublincore.org. Honestly the RDA Toolkit would work if I was plugging things into XML or MARC but I can’t find explanations if you want to do it any other way. Am I really off base or just slightly confused? Thanks. Judie Cooper
From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Mark Rose Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:46 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA/Dublin Core That was a very clear reply, Diane. It is a shame the Dublin Core website is so inaccessible on account of convoluted terminology and poor navigation. -------------------------- Sent using BlackBerry Mark Rose, B.A.Hons., M.I.St. Information Manager ICURR mr...@icurr.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access <RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA <RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA> Sent: Tue Apr 26 00:19:07 2011 Subject: Re: [RDA-L] RDA/Dublin Core Mark & Judie: Let me try to clarify some of this--I agree that it can be very confusing. Dublin Core and the RDA Vocabularies are separate element vocabularies, and either one can be used by a digital asset management system (normally the system you choose already comes with something someone else has chosen). Dublin Core has been 'finished' for some time and is much simpler, and many institutions and groups have used it and published freely available guidance for doing so (as has DCMI). The RDA Vocabularies are more complex than DC, can be used with or without the FRBR model, and are currently in the process of review. Although there are very detailed instructions for creating RDA records they are only available via license (online) or purchase (hard copy). Both vocabularies can be used to create XML descriptions, as well as with other encoding methods (RDF, RDFa, etc.), but that sort of help is a bit more accessible for DC at this stage. There is not now a publicly available mapping between DC and RDA but there will likely be some appearing within a year or so. There are definitely no current plans to change DC to accommodate RDA--that's extremely unlikely to happen (ever) and not necessary in any case. These are not easy issues to describe or explain, and there's a lot of misinformation being shared 'out there' with good intentions but not much understanding. If you really need help with this, you might want to suggest to your institution that buying some consultation time from someone who does know what they're doing is by far the cheapest alternative for getting a good start with a project (recent graduation from library school is not a guarantee of competence in this area, since most schools don't teach this stuff). If you want to talk to me specifically about recommendations for consultants in your area, that conversation is better held offlist. Regards, Diane Hillmann co-chair, DCMI/RDA Task Group On 4/25/11 6:51 PM, Mark Rose wrote: > The XML of Dublin Core would relate to how the information was recorded only. > Since you plan on using a digital asset management system, I am assuming > there is some database in place that would record the DC metadata elements. > There is a DC task group looking at incorporating RDA elements into RDA > http://dublincore.org/dcmirdataskgroup/. From what I understand, DC will have > to be altered to account for the RDA elements. DC uses RDF vocabularies. > > Mark Rose, B.A.Hons., M.I.St. > Librarian and Information Systems Manager > ICURR = Cirur > mr...@icurr.org > (647) 345-7004 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access on > behalf of Cooper, Judith K. > Sent: Mon 4/25/2011 5:25 PM > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Subject: [RDA-L] RDA/Dublin Core > > Hi, > I'm trying to set up a dam system for all of our photos, documents, > publications and things that we have. Basically catalog it all. We aren't > going to use MARC and are looking at Dublin Core, but really great > explanations of how this works especially in conjunction with RDA are not > easy to find nor are examples. Or else I am not looking in the right places. > I don't need to set it up using xml and can find no examples involving RDA > and DC that do not also involve xml. Can anyone offer me some advice or am I > just totally lost since my last cataloging class was 20 years ago? Thanks for > any help that anyone can give me I have looked at all of the basics at all of > the RDA and DC sites and the ones that people were suggesting on here > recently for FRBR but they weren't giving me exactly what I needed. > > Judie Cooper > Librarian > Extension and Agricultural Information > University of Missouri > 1-98 Agriculture Building > Columbia, MO 65211 > > Phone: 573-884-9743 > Fax: 573-882-8007 > E-mail: coope...@missouri.edu > Web: http://extension.missouri.edu<http://extension.missouri.edu> > > > > > > . >
