In basing the catalog record on the manifestation, the carrier elements must be 
included, but in the library model, the work/expression is primary. A 
bibliographic record that simply describes the carrier seems out of place in 
the catalog, to me. The record is being used by the patron to access the movie 
"Lord of the rings," not the piece of aluminum/plastic on which it is burned, 
so I don't see the logic of creating a separate record for the aluminum/plastic 
object, other than for internal staff inventory. 

Steven Arakawa 
Catalog Librarian for Training & Documentation
Catalog & Metadata Services, SML, Yale University
P.O. Box 208240 New Haven, CT 06520-8240  
(203)432-8286 steven.arak...@yale.edu


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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Mercante, Mary Ann
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Isn't the traditional print book a carrier for its intellectual content?  With 
books, we catalog both the carrier (descriptive cataloging, including 
pagination and size) and the content (subject cataloging and classification).   
At our library, we do likewise with our Kindles and Nooks, cataloging both the 
carrier and the content.

Mary Ann Mercante,
Assistant Dean & Head, Technical Services
Maryville University Library
650 Maryville University Drive
St. Louis, MO.  63141
314-529-9650
fax:  314-529-9941
mmerca...@maryville.edu


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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Arakawa, Steven
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 9:09 AM
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I'm struggling with the theoretical foundations myself, so take it with a grain 
of salt as I try to walk my way through it. With regard to electronic readers, 
library cataloging focuses on the content as modeled by the FRBR WEMI. You 
catalog the e-book, not the Kindle reader. You catalog the sound recording, not 
the iPod. The user's primary need is for a specific work/expression (or 
form/genre, or series, or topic), not 'whatever' the library has loaded on the 
Kindle this month. (Secondary needs are taken care of with the SMD, notes, or 
faceting.) You can certainly uses an ILS system to inventory the carrier 
equipment, but to present this to the public view I would argue is misleading; 
the library catalog represents an intellectual collection; it's not the Best 
Buy catalog. A carrier could still be categorized under the WEMI model if the 
collection is treating it as an artifact rather than a carrier, for example a 
special collection of reading tools, but for the purposes you describe, the 
Kindle or Playaway is a carrier for the intellectual content.

Steven Arakawa 
Catalog Librarian for Training & Documentation
Catalog & Metadata Services, SML, Yale University
P.O. Box 208240 New Haven, CT 06520-8240  
(203)432-8286 steven.arak...@yale.edu

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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of J. McRee Elrod
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:18 PM
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Subject: [RDA-L] Why RDA deals so poorly with equipment?

http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/alcts/confevents/past/ala/annual/04/Tillett.pdf

In the fourth slide of this FRBR presentation, materials listed to be
catalogued include:

    What Are We Cataloging?
    
 Library collections
    - Books
    - Serials
    - Maps, globes, etc
    - Manuscripts.
    - Musical scores
    - A-V
    
 sound recordings
    
 motion pictures
    
 photographs, slides
    - Multimedia
    - "Remote" digital
    materials

Missing is equipment, e.g. electronic readers and players now being
acquired and circulated by libraries, whether with prerecorded
material, or as carriers for electronic resources available from the
library.  Perhaps "A-V" could be interpreted to include A-V equipment?  
Is a Kindle or Kobo "A-V"?

Also missing is realia.

I'll admit it is difficult to see items of equipment and much realia
(apart from works of art) as intellectual or artistic works.  But we
do need to catalogue them.  Is this early (2004) omission related to
RDA's failure to address this growing body of library material?

Is it too late to include such material in the redrafted RDA?

"Computer" would need to change from being a media type (replaced by
ISBD's "electronic"?), becoming instead a carrier term under a new
media term "equipment", along with  readers, players, etc.  Many present
content terms would apply, but perhaps "computer program" shoud be added.


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