For what it's worth this is why I'm not in favor the recommended practice of modifying the appearance of NAF controlled vocabulary items for 370 "in case they get used as a qualifier". It blurs the distinction between a "string" and a "thing".
--Ben Benjamin Abrahamse Cataloging Coordinator Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems MIT Libraries 617-253-7137 -----Original Message----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:33 PM To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 370 Russia, Federation ? Good question, Adam. I assume it's because people have gotten into their mind that the rule is "remove the parentheses and replace with a comma" but of course even though that usually works that isn't actually what is called for in the last paragraph of 16.2.2.4, which says to "precede the name of the LARGER PLACE by a comma." As you observe "Federation" isn't the name of a larger place, so presumably it should be recorded "Russia (Federation)" in 370. Or perhaps we should record just "Russia" in 370? Is this a case like Adams (Iowa : Township), where we would just record "Adams, Iowa" in 370, dropping the type of jurisdiction qualifier (by NACO policy)? This also has bearing on qualifiers used with corporate bodies. I've been looking for examples in the authority file of "Russia" being used as a qualifier on a corporate body and I see inconsistency—in some cases people have used "(Russia)" e.g. Evraziĭskiĭ sovet po standartizat︠s︡ii, metrologii, i sertifikat︠s︡ii (Russia); in others they've used "(Russia (Federation))", e.g. Don Cossack Chorus (Russia (Federation)), both recent LC records. The majority seem to be just "(Russia)". In any case, I don't think there's any justification for "Russia, Federation" in 370. Bob Robert L. Maxwell Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian Genre/Form Authorities Librarian 6728 Harold B. Lee Library Brigham Young University Provo, UT 84602 (801)422-5568 "We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842. -----Original Message----- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 4:19 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] 370 Russia, Federation ? I'm seeing a lot of records where 370 $c or $e has the following recorded: Russia, Federation Is there any reason why people are not recording this in the authorized form of Russia (Federation)? Most of the records (and they are numerous) were created by LC or U Chicago catalogers. I'm trying to figure out what might cause a cataloger to record this place by replacing the parentheses with a comma. --Adam ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Adam L. Schiff Principal Cataloger University of Washington Libraries Box 352900 Seattle, WA 98195-2900 (206) 543-8409 (206) 685-8782 fax asch...@u.washington.edu http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~