Well, I would point out that this isn't a recommended practice, it is the
RDA instruction in numerous chapters for recording various elements such
as place of birth, place of death, location of headquarters, location of
conference, etc. Any change to how we record the data in the MARC fields
for the elements really ought to be a change to the RDA instructions.
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Benjamin A Abrahamse wrote:
For what it's worth this is why I'm not in favor the recommended practice of modifying the appearance of NAF
controlled vocabulary items for 370 "in case they get used as a qualifier". It blurs the
distinction between a "string" and a "thing".
--Ben
Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Robert Maxwell
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 7:33 PM
To: RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Re: [RDA-L] 370 Russia, Federation ?
Good question, Adam. I assume it's because people have gotten into their mind that the rule is "remove the
parentheses and replace with a comma" but of course even though that usually works that isn't actually what is
called for in the last paragraph of 16.2.2.4, which says to "precede the name of the LARGER PLACE by a
comma." As you observe "Federation" isn't the name of a larger place, so presumably it should be
recorded "Russia (Federation)" in 370.
Or perhaps we should record just "Russia" in 370? Is this a case like Adams (Iowa :
Township), where we would just record "Adams, Iowa" in 370, dropping the type of
jurisdiction qualifier (by NACO policy)?
This also has bearing on qualifiers used with corporate bodies. I've been looking for examples in the authority file of
"Russia" being used as a qualifier on a corporate body and I see inconsistency?in some cases people have used
"(Russia)" e.g. Evrazii?skii? sovet po standartizat?s?ii, metrologii, i sertifikat?s?ii (Russia); in others
they've used "(Russia (Federation))", e.g. Don Cossack Chorus (Russia (Federation)), both recent LC records.
The majority seem to be just "(Russia)".
In any case, I don't think there's any justification for "Russia, Federation"
in 370.
Bob
Robert L. Maxwell
Special Collections and Ancient Languages Catalog Librarian Genre/Form
Authorities Librarian
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Brigham Young University
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course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 4:19 PM
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Subject: [RDA-L] 370 Russia, Federation ?
I'm seeing a lot of records where 370 $c or $e has the following recorded:
Russia, Federation
Is there any reason why people are not recording this in the authorized form of
Russia (Federation)? Most of the records (and they are numerous) were created
by LC or U Chicago catalogers. I'm trying to figure out what might cause a
cataloger to record this place by replacing the parentheses with a comma.
--Adam
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University of Washington Libraries
Box 352900
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(206) 543-8409
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asch...@u.washington.edu
http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff
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