You might find (LC-PCC PS for 2.8.6.6
<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/2.8.6.6.html> ) helpful.

I believe that PS would have you do:
264 _1 . $c[2005]
264 _4 $cC2005

DtSt = t
Dates = 2005, 2005

Basically, LC suggests that you supply a date if known or probable, guess
one if at all possible, using a copyright date, distribution date, first
printing date, or some other method, and make a broad guess if that is all
you can do, as per 1.9.2 <http://access.rdatoolkit.org/1.9.2.html> . 

IOW, do everything you can to guess a publication date, because if you
cannot put *something* down for that element and have to enter  [date of
publication not identified], then, as far as I can see, you will need to do
this:
                264 _1 . $c [date of publication not identified]
                264 _2 . $c [date of distribution not identified]
                264 _3 . $c [date of manufacture not identified]

DtSt = n
Dates = uuuu, uuuu

This basically takes us way back to the pre-AACR days when we could do
[n.d.] (no date), but then makes that option so unpleasant that we will
stick to the AACR principle of always putting down a date of publication, no
matter how wild our guess has to be.

I may be way off base about this, so I would very much like to hear what the
collective wisdom has to say about my interpretation of the 'Core'
instructions for Date of Distribution (2.9.6
<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/2.9.6.html> ) and Date of Manufacture (2.10.6
<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/2.10.6.html> ); i.e.:
*       Date of distribution is a core element for a resource in a published
form if the date of publication is not identified.-- therefore if [date of
publication not identified], and you have no date of distribution either,
then enter [date of distribution not identified], for a single-part resource
(2.9.6.6 <http://access.rdatoolkit.org/2.9.6.6.html> )
*       Date of manufacture is a core element for a resource in a published
form if neither the date of publication, the date of distribution, nor the
copyright date is identified.--therefore if [date of publication not
identified], and [date of distribution not identified], and you have no date
of manufacture either, then enter [date of manufacture not identified] , for
a single-part resource (2.10.6.6
<http://access.rdatoolkit.org/2.10.6.6.html> )

Deborah
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Deborah Fritz
TMQ, Inc.
debo...@marcofquality.com
www.marcofquality.com


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Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 10:02 AM
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Subject: [RDA-L] "Date of publication not identified" & DtSt, Dates

I've done a little searching and can't find the answer, so I am hoping the
collective wisdom can help me out...

If you use [date of publication not identified] in 264_1 $c and you have a
copyright date in 264_4 (let's say 2005), how would this look in DtSt and
Dates fixed fields? 

DtSt = t
Dates = uuuu, 2005
?????

Thanks in advance for your help,

Karen


Karen Snow, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Graduate School of Library & Information Science Dominican University
7900 West Division Street
River Forest, IL  60305
ks...@dom.edu
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