See, thats where the real fun in WEMI really comes in.
- - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. <mailto:debo...@marcofquality.com> debo...@marcofquality.com <http://www.marcofquality.com> www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Wayne Richter Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 5:21 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem And for a really complicated situation how about Mahlers Das Lied von der Erde. Mahler used Hans Bethges poetry anthology Die chinesische Flöte which was in turn translated from English and French versions of poems by 2 Tang dynasty poets, Li Bai & Wang Wei. At one time I had tracked down Li Bais original poem which was the source for Der Trunkene im Frühling Wayne Richter Asian Materials Specialist/PCC Liaison The Libraries Western Washington University Bellingham, WA 98225-9103 From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Deborah Fritz Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 12:57 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants--Pre-existing poem Bernadette asked: And if a composer sets a pre-existing poem to music, what relator term should the poet get? None of the creator list terms are available, and writer of added lyrics presumes that the music predates the text. No one has replied to this yet, so Ill try to tackle it. This is a Related Work situation. I could not find a specific Related Work \ Derivative Work \ Relationship Designator at J.2.2 <http://access.rdatoolkit.org/J.2.2.html> , so I would use either the most general based on (work) or one step down adaptation of (work); unless musical setting of (work) could apply? In RDA minus MARC: Related Work: AAP (or link to record) for the Poem Relationship Designator: musical setting of (work) In RDA/MARC: add a Related Work added entry for the poem: 700 1# $i musical setting of (work): $a Poet, John. $t Poem. Yes/No? Deborah - - - - - - - - Deborah Fritz TMQ, Inc. debo...@marcofquality.com www.marcofquality.com From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Bernadette Mary O'Reilly Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:59 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Relators for contributors and consultants Hello, I want to provide a model record for training purposes for a resource which is a dictionary of biography. It has a consultant editor, 3 editors and 15 contributors. The latter presumably did most of the writing and are between them responsible for most of the intellectual/artistic content of the resource, but because they are responsible for different bits the work is a compilation, entered under title. editor of compilation seems right for the 3 editors. I suppose that the consultant editor will have to be just editor, but that doesnt seem good for someone who presumably is offering guidance before and during the writing rather than tidying it afterwards. And what about the contributors? Is it legitimate to use author for contributors to a work entered under a title? They are authors of their own bits, but not creators with respect to the work as a whole, and author is in the creator list. (I only plan to name one contributor the rest will be [and fourteen others].) A similar case: a compilation of photographs by many different people, each, naturally, responsible for separate photos. Could they be photographer? illustrator is not good, since the text is slight and subordinate to the photos. And if a composer sets a pre-existing poem to music, what relator term should the poet get? None of the creator list terms are available, and writer of added lyrics presumes that the music predates the text. Suggestions or clarifications would be very welcome. Thanks, Bernadette ******************* Bernadette O'Reilly Catalogue Support Librarian 01865 2-77134 Bodleian Libraries, Osney One Building Osney Mead Oxford OX2 0EW. *******************
