Don't think we have that yet. I copied from Bib Format and Standards the 
following for 1XX and 7XX:

Relationship information (R)

To be determined/To be determined


Carolyn Kadri
Special Collections Cataloger
University of Texas at Arlington
Arlington, TX  76019
817-272-7153

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If we use the MARC relator code list, do we need to add a subfield 2 to tell 
what thesaurus that we used?

Richard Baumgarten
Cataloger
Johnson County Library
P.O. Box 2901
Shawnee Mission, Kansas 66201-1301
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Would that mean we'd have to start calling the inker, "rubricator"?

--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
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[mailto:RDA-L@listserv.lac-bac.gc.ca] On Behalf Of Patrick Crowley
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Perhaps you could construe the colorist as an illuminator? ;)

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Kadri, Carolyn J 
<ka...@uta.edu<mailto:ka...@uta.edu>> wrote:
I find that the MARC relator terms and codes lists much more robust and 
explanatory than those listed in the RDA appendices at this point in time. Even 
though I check the RDA appendices, I usually wind up using terms/codes form the 
 MARC relators lists. And of course, the RDA appendices don't have relator 
codes anyway. I suspect that over time, the RDA appendices for relator terms 
will become more robust and cover more options to choose from-but they are just 
not there yet. Is anyone else out there putting both terms and codes in your 
original records that you are contributing to WorldCat? I have been doing so, 
but only because the OCLC rda workform comes down with the subfields $e and $4 
in them. Also, I know that I have seen a discussion in the past about why the 
$e does not display when attached to 110's and 710's but I can't remember 
exactly why. I am wondering if it is just because my local Voyager system is 
not configured to display them  in the public mode because it is not "turned 
on" or what? I know I have seen OCLC original records with $e's in those 
fields, most notably those records coming from the GPO where their 110's have 
$e issuing body in most of what I have seen, and sometimes $e editor in a 710.

I would appreciate hearing from those of you that have opinions and suggestions 
about this issue.

Thanks.

Carolyn Kadri
Special Collections Cataloger
University of Texas at Arlington
Arlington, TX  76019
817-272-7153<tel:817-272-7153>

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In my RDA cataloging of graphic novels and comic books I've been using 
"illustrator" for some of these (penciller, inker, cover artist) but I use 
"calligrapher" for letterers and "colorist" for colorists.

Remember RDA 18.5.1.3 says "record one or more appropriate terms from the list 
in Appendix I" but "if none of the terms listed in appendix I is appropriate or 
sufficiently specific, use a term designating the nature of the relationship as 
concisely as possible." So RDA would be fine with you using "inker" or 
"penciller" (etc.) if in your opinion "illustrator" is not sufficiently 
specific. I prefer to use terms from controlled lists, so I start with RDA 
Appendix I but if the term I need is not there I go to the MARC relator list at 
http://www.loc.gov/marc/relators/relaterm.html or the RBMS relationship 
designators list at 
http://www.rbms.info/committees/bibliographic_standards/controlled_vocabularies/relators/alphabetical_list.htm.
 "Calligrapher" and "colorist" come from the MARC relator list.

Bob

Robert L. Maxwell
Head, Special Collections and Formats Catalog Dept.
6728 Harold B. Lee Library
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT 84602
(801)422-5568<tel:%28801%29422-5568>

"We should set an example for all the world, rather than confine ourselves to 
the course which has been heretofore pursued"--Eliza R. Snow, 1842.

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Subject: [RDA-L] Relationships and comic books/graphic novels

Does anyone happen to know if there is work being done to expand the RDA 
relationship vocabulary to account for specific roles associated with the 
illustration of comic books and graphic novels?

Under the current RDA relators, it would seem the following roles (which are 
considered discrete enough to warrant separate mention on the statements of 
responsibility of comic books and graphic novels) all fit under the category of 
"illustrator":

artist
inker
colorist (or, color artist)
letterer

Also, I've noticed that often "cover artist" gets separate mention, though I 
think they would still be considered an illustrator.

--Ben

Benjamin Abrahamse
Cataloging Coordinator
Acquisitions, Metadata and Enterprise Systems
MIT Libraries
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Patrick Crowley
Cataloging Assistant
Rare Books and Special Collections
Bryn Mawr College

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