If you search Quran, without the alif, you will get the heading with the
alif.

Am a little puzzled by the lack of finding anything at begins with an Ayn
or alif.  Would that require a skip character in the title of a "1", even
though we put the ayn or alif after the letter involved?


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Dana Van Meter <vanme...@ias.edu> wrote:

> This may not be at all relevant here, but I have been noticing for at least
> a year now that I have difficulty searching anything with an apostrophe in
> LC's authority file.  If I copy a heading which contains an apostrophe from
> the body of a record in LC's online catalog, and then search the heading in
> the authority file I get no results.  But if I delete the apostrophe, and
> type in a new apostrophe, I pull up the heading in the name authority file.
> For some reason an apostrophe in a heading in LC's catalog isn't matching
> the apostrophe in the authority record. However, I just checked Qur'an in
> the name authority file and I agree it does appear to be an alif. Thank you
> for pointing this out, I hope that it's not too late for it to be addressed
> before the next Toolkit release on May 14th.
>
> Dana Van Meter
> Cataloging Librarian
> Historical Studies-Social Science Library
> Institute for Advanced Study
> Princeton, NJ 08540
> vanme...@ias.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access
> [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Adam L. Schiff
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 2:36 PM
> To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA
> Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Spelling of Qur'an
>
> No they are different characters and in some fonts they do not display the
> same (even in OCLC you can see that they are different characters).  If you
> search RDA in the RDA toolkit using the form found in the authority file
> (copy and paste), you get no results.  If you use an apostrophe instead,
> you
> get all of the places in RDA where the word occurs.
>
> Adam
>
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>
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2013, Gene Fieg wrote:
>
> > Does it display the same?  And are the unicodes the same?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Adam L. Schiff
> > <asch...@u.washington.edu>wrote:
> >
> >> I see that the LC/NACO authority records for Koran have been changed
> >> to the form Qurʼan, with an alif.  This is the correct Arabic
> >> transliteration of the word, but when we were doing the examples for
> >> RDA we were told by the JSC to use an apostrophe rather than an alif for
> >> all of our examples.
> >>  We were instructed to use an apostrophe presumably because the
> >> apostrophe is commonly used in English language resources.  So I'm
> >> not sure if the change to an alif was an intentional change or not.
> >> If the alif is intentional, then the RDA examples need to be changed
> too.
> >>
> >> Adam Schiff
> >>
> >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> Adam L. Schiff
> >> Principal Cataloger
> >> University of Washington Libraries
> >> Box 352900
> >> Seattle, WA 98195-2900
> >> (206) 543-8409
> >> (206) 685-8782 fax
> >> asch...@u.washington.edu
> >> http://faculty.washington.edu/~aschiff
> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Claremont School of Theology
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